Bargain Guitars

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Re: Bargain Guitars

Post by Ceciltguitar » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:01 am

1973: 1957 Stratocaster, $100 (I sold it for about the same a year later)

1984: 1982 Sakurai "Concert" model,$1000, bought in Kowloon

2002: Parker Spanish Fly, e - b a y, $1800.

2017: (repaired) Cordoba GK Pro, $700, e - b a y

2017: Cordoba Solista CE SP/MP, $725 e - b a y

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Re: Bargain Guitars

Post by Finn Wandahl » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:25 am

Back in August I got a lovely Brazilian Di Giorgio 1973 for 250.- US$.
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Re: Bargain Guitars

Post by Robert Rogers » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:40 pm

I bought a 1965 Gibson LG1 in the mid 1970's for $20. Still have it.

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Re: Bargain Guitars

Post by rojarosguitar » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:54 pm

I don't have bargain guitars, but I once stupidely exchanged a Fender Jaguar (1960s) for a (Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Taiwanese???) Les Paul copy. In hindsight it was the most stupid deal I ever made with instruments, but I badly wanted this cherry red Les Paul with golden pick ups (it was so cheaply made that it even didn't have a glued neck, just bolted on with four scres :lol: ). It's long time ago, in the very beginning of copies. BTW it didn't sound half bad...

So now there you go - you can bask in the feeling, there is somebody really stupid out there :lol:
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Re: Bargain Guitars

Post by Big bird » Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:43 pm

rojarosguitar wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:54 pm

So now there you go - you can bask in the feeling, there is somebody really stupid out there :lol:
Based on my commute to work this morning.... you are not alone! :wink:

I doubt you are alone when it comes to wanting something bad enough that the brain goes into neutral. Mix that with youth and like Barnum said... "There is a sucker born every minute"..... Ask me how I know......
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Re: Bargain Guitars

Post by Todd Tipton » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:00 pm

I've always recommended Yamaha guitars to anyone wanting a great guitar for a small price. I really needed a beater guitar and didn't want to spend a lot of money. Through Craigslist, I found a Yamaha G-100A for $60. I really didn't want to waste a trip so I asked a few questions about the play-ability before I went. "Oh yeah! Nothing wrong. Plays great!"

When I got there, The saddle was gone and a folded strip of notebook paper attempted to take the place of the saddle. "Uh, where is the saddle?"

"The what?"

I could hardly get the man to stop swaying his hips as he strummed the instrument telling me how fine it sounded. Anyway, I managed to get the instrument for $40. On the way home, I was regretting making the purchase and wished that I had my $40 back. So, I got online and had to buy a replacement saddle. Luthiers, repair people, and probably almost everyone would laugh at just how little I know, and just how totally inept I am when it comes to any type of repairs. So I was very shocked and disappointed when this GIANT BONE BRICK came in the mail with the word "saddle" on the package. No tools. No skills. Just me, the saddle, and some sandpaper (only thanks to my wife who is FAR more handy than me) all on the studio floor. Soon thereafter, I discovered that vodka and cranberry juice were also needed (we were out of triple sec.) I was really regretting spending the time and the money, but I was in too deep. I just had to finish.
After a couple of days, I managed to get the saddle to the correct size. Whew!

Then I strung up the guitar and that was when I was really surprised. I mean I don't know my Yamaha history, but isn't this a lower end factory made guitar? For reasons beyond my comprehension, it sounded better than MANY handmade guitars I've played. And the more I played it, the more I liked it. As bizarre as this sounds, this has quickly become one of my favorite guitars.

Now, I still need a better beater guitar, because this one is far too precious to me!
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Re: Bargain Guitars

Post by Todd Tipton » Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:41 am

Big bird wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:43 pm
rojarosguitar wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:54 pm

So now there you go - you can bask in the feeling, there is somebody really stupid out there :lol:
Based on my commute to work this morning.... you are not alone! :wink:
That is hilarious!
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Re: Bargain Guitars

Post by eno » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:26 am

May be I'm just not lucky but over decades I cycled through a great deal of bargain guitars but none of them sounded good enough to be kept so I let them all go. On the other hand, the ones that sound really good and that I keep are non-bargain expensive ones. So I learnt that the price tag actually pretty much reflects the quality in the vast majority of cases. The guitar market is very mature and settled and surprises are rare, good guitars and luthiers are well known and are priced accordingly.
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Re: Bargain Guitars

Post by Todd Tipton » Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:19 pm

eno wrote:
Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:26 am
May be I'm just not lucky but over decades I cycled through a great deal of bargain guitars but none of them sounded good enough to be kept so I let them all go.
I here you. What happened to me was an anomaly. I doubt that would ever happen again. I'd be far more likely to be struck by lightning three times in a row while wearing rubber boots at the North Pole giving a flawless performance of the Luigi Legnani caprices utilizing only "a" and "c" for all scale passages performing on a high actioned toy guitar with egg slicer strings.
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Re: Bargain Guitars

Post by Rome714 » Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:56 am

My bargain guitars were a John Ray spruce classical that I paid $1650 shipped and sold 2 years later for $3950 and a David Daily guitar I currently own for $1370 shipped earlier this year. I regret selling the John Ray because it sounded really good but needed the money at the time and quit guitar at that time. I don't plan on making the same mistake with the Daily since it also sounds great.
76' Mattingly CD/IN, 95' David Daily CD/IN, 97' Eric Sahlin SP/BRW(serial #200), 03' GV Rubio Estudio CD/Palo escrito
03' Malapanis CD/Cocobolo, 06' Brian Dunn SP/IN, 09' Coung Luthier(Lattice) CD/IN, 13' Vowinkel CD/BRW

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Re: Bargain Guitars

Post by eno » Fri Dec 08, 2017 3:42 am

Rome714 wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:56 am
My bargain guitars ...
Rome, I'm sure your Sahlin was not a bargain :) but just curious: does it really sound that good that people are willing to wait 10 yrs to get them? (I'm thinking about my next non-bargain guitar...)
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Re: Bargain Guitars

Post by montana » Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:56 am

Rome714 wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:56 am
My bargain guitars were a John Ray spruce classical that I paid $1650 shipped and sold 2 years later for $3950 and a David Daily guitar I currently own for $1370 shipped earlier this year. I regret selling the John Ray because it sounded really good but needed the money at the time and quit guitar at that time. I don't plan on making the same mistake with the Daily since it also sounds great.
But you could , because you own so many nice cgs :D :D

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Re: Bargain Guitars

Post by Rome714 » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:51 am

eno wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2017 3:42 am
Rome714 wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:56 am
My bargain guitars ...
Rome, I'm sure your Sahlin was not a bargain :) but just curious: does it really sound that good that people are willing to wait 10 yrs to get them? (I'm thinking about my next non-bargain guitar...)
I paid full asking price from Trilogy guitars for the Sahlin but it was the best guitar for me that day of about 15 or so I tried. I wasn't even planning on buying a Spruce top I was there for the Cedar Mattingly which I got but the Sahlin was that good. I had a Cedar Sahlin from 2007 before that I wasn't in love with so I sold it. Sahlin's hype is justified if they sound like my guitar does. Plus his worksmanship is the best I've seen. I'm on his waitlist hoping to get a Spruce/Maple guitar from him.
76' Mattingly CD/IN, 95' David Daily CD/IN, 97' Eric Sahlin SP/BRW(serial #200), 03' GV Rubio Estudio CD/Palo escrito
03' Malapanis CD/Cocobolo, 06' Brian Dunn SP/IN, 09' Coung Luthier(Lattice) CD/IN, 13' Vowinkel CD/BRW

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Re: Bargain Guitars

Post by Rome714 » Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:10 am

montana wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:56 am
Rome714 wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:56 am
My bargain guitars were a John Ray spruce classical that I paid $1650 shipped and sold 2 years later for $3950 and a David Daily guitar I currently own for $1370 shipped earlier this year. I regret selling the John Ray because it sounded really good but needed the money at the time and quit guitar at that time. I don't plan on making the same mistake with the Daily since it also sounds great.
But you could , because you own so many nice cgs :D :D
I could sell it but I know I would regret it, it's my workhorse along with my Brian Dunn. I still think about the John Ray all time(sold it 5 years ago) and wish I would have kept it but at the time I thought I would never play again. Life is too short, it's nice having a choice of guitars to play everyday.
76' Mattingly CD/IN, 95' David Daily CD/IN, 97' Eric Sahlin SP/BRW(serial #200), 03' GV Rubio Estudio CD/Palo escrito
03' Malapanis CD/Cocobolo, 06' Brian Dunn SP/IN, 09' Coung Luthier(Lattice) CD/IN, 13' Vowinkel CD/BRW

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Re: Bargain Guitars

Post by albert-canuck » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:27 pm

I consider my 1968 Taurus model 56 classical guitar to be a bargain at $450 that I bought a couple years ago. It is in very nice shape with only a couple small finger nail dings and no scratches. The back and sides look very nice and the tone is warm with a nice balance. Tension is a little high but otherwise a very nice guitar. My new to me 1979 Ramirez 1a 10 string is a little easier to play and my 1992 Bernabe M-50 is much easier to play. They also sound a little nicer with more separation of the notes and more projection. But as each cost 10x more than the Taurus, the cheaper guitar can still hold its own. If I didn't have the others I could still be happy with it as my sole guitar.
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