Complete Solo Recordings - Narciso Yepes

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Re: Complete Solo Recordings - Narciso Yepes

Post by Denian Arcoleo » Sat Jun 10, 2017 1:32 pm

Put simply, Yepes is always worth listening to.

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Re: Complete Solo Recordings - Narciso Yepes

Post by ddray » Sat Jun 10, 2017 1:35 pm

gitgeezer wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2017 1:08 pm
My impression is that 90 percent or more of his recordings are of Spanish composers, though he did do Bach and, I think, Vivaldi. I assume he was among the best with Spanish compositions, but can someone tell me how good he was with Bach and other non-Spanish composers?
I've only listened to his Bach recordings on YT and they're great, he was a tremendous musician. But it brings up a problem with these 8-string and 10-string etc guitars though, and that is in the matter of comparison. Are they still guitars, or should we find some other name for them? There's less of a common frame of reference for comparison purposes.

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Re: Complete Solo Recordings - Narciso Yepes

Post by spanishguitarmusic » Sat Jun 10, 2017 2:27 pm

larryguitar wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2017 12:05 pm
Andrew Fryer wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:52 am
I have always liked Yepes (well, since the Eighties), but you can always have too much of a good thing. I've only ever listened to my Bream boxset once.
The problem is a lack of time and also the fact that you have to deal with physical disks. I solved all of my problems by buying a fast CD drive ($60), and ripping all of my CDs, 1200+, to Apple Lossless format in iTunes.

I then bought a long optical cable and hooked it from my iMac into the DAC input on the back of my Accuphase CD player which is one of the sources in my two channel system. With Apple's Remote iPhone app, I can play everything on my stereo without ever touching a disk.

The real advantage of this setup is that I can set iTunes to down sample the CDs to 128kbps and fit all of them on my iPhone so I can listen to music on the go.

It's still over fifty days worth of music! I have the Williams and Bream boxes and dip into them but I've never tried to listen to one CD after another. At some point, I have to stop listening to go and try to play the guitar.
:merci: for the setup that you're using! I also have the Williams box set, but I like going through all the CD's in the CD player so I am currently looking at other ways to listen to the music! Great suggestions. :bye:

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Re: Complete Solo Recordings - Narciso Yepes

Post by spanishguitarmusic » Sat Jun 10, 2017 2:29 pm

Great post! I love the box sets as I only have the Williams one and I would like to get the Bream box set. So, the Yepes would be good as well! Thank you.

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Re: Complete Solo Recordings - Narciso Yepes

Post by larryguitar » Sat Jun 10, 2017 2:52 pm

spanishguitarmusic wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2017 2:27 pm
larryguitar wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2017 12:05 pm
Andrew Fryer wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:52 am
I have always liked Yepes (well, since the Eighties), but you can always have too much of a good thing. I've only ever listened to my Bream boxset once.
The problem is a lack of time and also the fact that you have to deal with physical disks. I solved all of my problems by buying a fast CD drive ($60), and ripping all of my CDs, 1200+, to Apple Lossless format in iTunes.

I then bought a long optical cable and hooked it from my iMac into the DAC input on the back of my Accuphase CD player which is one of the sources in my two channel system. With Apple's Remote iPhone app, I can play everything on my stereo without ever touching a disk.

The real advantage of this setup is that I can set iTunes to down sample the CDs to 128kbps and fit all of them on my iPhone so I can listen to music on the go.

It's still over fifty days worth of music! I have the Williams and Bream boxes and dip into them but I've never tried to listen to one CD after another. At some point, I have to stop listening to go and try to play the guitar.
:merci: for the setup that you're using! I also have the Williams box set, but I like going through all the CD's in the CD player so I am currently looking at other ways to listen to the music! Great suggestions. :bye:
You're welcome! I forgot to mention the best part of this setup, the search function! Now, I can find anything with a few keywords or an artist or composer's name

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Re: Complete Solo Recordings - Narciso Yepes

Post by Altophile » Sat Jun 10, 2017 4:03 pm

larryguitar wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:46 am
Altophile wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:20 am
larryguitar wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:55 am
I got the set yesterday and am just getting into it. Any favorite albums?
Once mine arrives I'll start with the Bach/Weiss album.

Can you describe how they handled the packaging? Did they just stuff CDs in a plastic case, or did they do it right: Put each CD in a small sleeve with art that matches the original album?

~Sean
There is no plastic case, it's a cardboard box with the artwork, and, yes, each CD is in a small sleeve that has a reproduction of the artwork from the original album. I think the paper sleeves are a bit thin but I guess they had to make them like that to fit twenty of them in a small box.

There is also a booklet that shows the track listings for each CD and has some photographs of him. There is also an essay by Graham Wade.
Thanks Larry, it's good to know that they did it right:-)

~Sean

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Re: Complete Solo Recordings - Narciso Yepes

Post by goldenoldie » Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:02 pm

:merci: Larry, you're a genius!

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Re: Complete Solo Recordings - Narciso Yepes

Post by larryguitar » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:11 pm

goldenoldie wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:02 pm
:merci: Larry, you're a genius!
Ha ha, no, no, but I did finally figure out how to use all the gear I owned to solve my playback problem! The last thing I did was to mail CDs to my mom's house so she could store them there. I still have five boxes to send her. Storage space is at a premium in New York.

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Re: Complete Solo Recordings - Narciso Yepes

Post by David Norton » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:28 pm

ddray wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2017 1:35 pm
I've only listened to his Bach recordings on YT and they're great, he was a tremendous musician. But it brings up a problem with these 8-string and 10-string etc guitars though, and that is in the matter of comparison. Are they still guitars, or should we find some other name for them? There's less of a common frame of reference for comparison purposes.
A lute can be 6-, 7-, 8-, 9-, 10-, 11-, 13-, or 14-courses, and it's still called a lute. Pedal harps have 40 to 47 strings, depending on the maker. They're all harps.

Except for the occasional low bass, it is very difficult for a non-specialist to segregate the sound of a 10-string guitar from an 8-string or 6-string. The overtone pattern still identifies in the ear nerves as "that's a guitar".
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Re: Complete Solo Recordings - Narciso Yepes

Post by Luis_Br » Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:51 pm

Just in case nobody noticed, in the link I posted in the previous page, you can actually listen to that Yepes recording, which is not included in this DG collection.

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Re: Complete Solo Recordings - Narciso Yepes

Post by ddray » Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:18 pm

David_Norton wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:28 pm
ddray wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2017 1:35 pm
I've only listened to his Bach recordings on YT and they're great, he was a tremendous musician. But it brings up a problem with these 8-string and 10-string etc guitars though, and that is in the matter of comparison. Are they still guitars, or should we find some other name for them? There's less of a common frame of reference for comparison purposes.
A lute can be 6-, 7-, 8-, 9-, 10-, 11-, 13-, or 14-courses, and it's still called a lute. Pedal harps have 40 to 47 strings, depending on the maker. They're all harps.

Except for the occasional low bass, it is very difficult for a non-specialist to segregate the sound of a 10-string guitar from an 8-string or 6-string. The overtone pattern still identifies in the ear nerves as "that's a guitar".
So what's the point in having the extra strings if it makes little difference? The extra sonorities that (for example) Drew Henderson in his YT videos has at his disposal on his 8-string guitar -- along with his obvious skill as a player -- makes for a different listening experience from someone playing a 6-string instrument. And certainly a digital piano, a spinet and a concert grand are still all pianos. A Beethoven sonata may sound different on each.
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Re: Complete Solo Recordings - Narciso Yepes

Post by larryguitar » Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:21 pm

ddray wrote:
Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:18 pm
David_Norton wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:28 pm
ddray wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2017 1:35 pm
I've only listened to his Bach recordings on YT and they're great, he was a tremendous musician. But it brings up a problem with these 8-string and 10-string etc guitars though, and that is in the matter of comparison. Are they still guitars, or should we find some other name for them? There's less of a common frame of reference for comparison purposes.
A lute can be 6-, 7-, 8-, 9-, 10-, 11-, 13-, or 14-courses, and it's still called a lute. Pedal harps have 40 to 47 strings, depending on the maker. They're all harps.

Except for the occasional low bass, it is very difficult for a non-specialist to segregate the sound of a 10-string guitar from an 8-string or 6-string. The overtone pattern still identifies in the ear nerves as "that's a guitar".
So what's the point in having the extra strings if it makes little difference?
Extended range.

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Re: Complete Solo Recordings - Narciso Yepes

Post by ddray » Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:47 pm

larryguitar wrote:
Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:21 pm
ddray wrote:
Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:18 pm
David_Norton wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:28 pm


A lute can be 6-, 7-, 8-, 9-, 10-, 11-, 13-, or 14-courses, and it's still called a lute. Pedal harps have 40 to 47 strings, depending on the maker. They're all harps.

Except for the occasional low bass, it is very difficult for a non-specialist to segregate the sound of a 10-string guitar from an 8-string or 6-string. The overtone pattern still identifies in the ear nerves as "that's a guitar".
So what's the point in having the extra strings if it makes little difference?
Extended range.
Well yeah, exactly. I'm not intending to open a can of worms, just saying that for comparison purposes it's a little difficult.

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Re: Complete Solo Recordings - Narciso Yepes

Post by David Norton » Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:51 pm

What are you trying to compare? And to what end?
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Re: Complete Solo Recordings - Narciso Yepes

Post by ddray » Tue Jun 13, 2017 11:04 pm

David_Norton wrote:
Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:51 pm
What are you trying to compare? And to what end?
Ask the guy who asked the original question:
but can someone tell me how good he was with Bach and other non-Spanish composers?
Compared to what?
I'll answer it. Yepes was a great guitarist and his Bach recordings are excellently done and I love listening to them. In my amateur opinion.
There ya go.

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