Traveling with a double top vs. normal guitar

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Arash Ahmadi
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Traveling with a double top vs. normal guitar

Post by Arash Ahmadi » Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:44 am

Performers often need to travel from say a dry and hot place to a wet and cold place or vice versa. For a frequent traveler, would a double top mean extra care and worry? Why?

Please share your thoughts and experience.
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Re: Traveling with a double top vs. normal guitar

Post by richtm » Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:50 pm

I have no personal experience with double tops on tour, but when I was travelling to Andreas Kirmse in Leipzig I was not worrying about the summer hot temperature in his car for my Köröskenyi solid cedar top guitar, which I left in his car for quite some wile. I knew that this would only induce heir to get out of tune but would have no effect to the wood.

Andreas looked from a dt perspective on it and would not have done it. I don't know exactly if this came out of practicle experience or only out of anticipation what might have happened to the instrument ( I didn't ask).

My rational for it was, that a dt guitar has much thinner woods and therefore could be much more sensitive to extreme conditions as you described above.

Looking forward to your perspectives :discussion: :D
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Re: Traveling with a double top vs. normal guitar

Post by Arash Ahmadi » Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:48 am

richtm wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:50 pm

Andreas looked from a dt perspective on it and would not have done it. I don't know exactly if this came out of practicle experience or only out of anticipation what might have happened to the instrument ( I didn't ask).

Looking forward to your perspectives :discussion: :D
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Re: Traveling with a double top vs. normal guitar

Post by petermc61 » Fri Nov 10, 2017 10:09 am

This is a really interesting question posed by the OP.

Personally, I am ever unlikely to travel far with a guitar but the answer might inform a parallel question of interest - do double top guitars show less sensitivity in the change of their sound with change in humidity? I suspect that broader question might be of interest to even more people than the original question.

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Re: Traveling with a double top vs. normal guitar

Post by TheEvan » Fri Nov 10, 2017 11:27 am

In a sense, a DT is plywood...thin veneers sandwiched over a core. The bonding should render the top less susceptible to temperature and humidity shifts. I would say that is true of the one I have.

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Re: Traveling with a double top vs. normal guitar

Post by astro64 » Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:03 pm

richtm wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:50 pm
I have no personal experience with double tops on tour, but when I was travelling to Andreas Kirmse in Leipzig I was not worrying about the summer hot temperature in his car for my Köröskenyi solid cedar top guitar, which I left in his car for quite some wile. I knew that this would only induce heir to get out of tune but would have no effect to the wood.

Andreas looked from a dt perspective on it and would not have done it. I don't know exactly if this came out of practicle experience or only out of anticipation what might have happened to the instrument ( I didn't ask).

My rational for it was, that a dt guitar has much thinner woods and therefore could be much more sensitive to extreme conditions as you described above.

Looking forward to your perspectives :discussion: :D
It is not jus the wood you need to worry about but also the glue in high heat. And the humidity would drop to very low levels inside a car as the temperature rises. Never a good idea to leave a guitar in closed hot car....any guitar.

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