Your musical lineage?

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Your musical lineage?

Post by Erik Zurcher » Fri Nov 10, 2017 10:56 pm

My guitar teacher was a student of Antonio Pereira Arias (Uruguay) who was a student of Andres Segovia when he lived and taught in Montevideo.

My musical lineage is: Andres Segovia > Antonio Pereira Arias > Henk Westhiner > me.

What is your musical lineage? If you are not sure, ask your teacher. I am sure that there are interesting lineages from the early days of classical guitar. (Andres Segovia, Miguel Llobet, Luise Walker, Narciso Yepes, Maria Luisa Anido, Abel Carlevaro, Ida Presti, etc.)
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Re: Your musical lineage?

Post by Rick Beauregard » Sat Nov 11, 2017 12:57 am

My teacher, the late Greg Coleman, had many teachers. Pepe Romero [>Celin Romero], Jose Tomas [> Regino Sainz de la Maza, Emilio Pujol, Alirio Diaz and Segovia], Fred Noad [>Mario Castelnuovo-Tedesco (composition), Julian Bream, Segovia] , Howard Heitmeyer, Joe Pass, Laurindo Almeida and his dad, Bud Coleman a member of the studio ensemble known as the Wrecking Crew. I had no idea then (1980) how close to guitar gods I was, or even who most of these guys were. I learned most of this reading Greg’s obit. He spoke to me most about studying with Tomás and exercises he learned from Pepe, probably his chief influences. Greg was a great classical, jazz and flamenco player and composer and an amazing teacher, a skill I am sure rubbed off from Pepe. I asked Pepe recently when I met him in Vancouver if he remembered Greg. He did indeed but did not know that he had passed in 2005.
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Re: Your musical lineage?

Post by a human » Sat Nov 11, 2017 2:13 am

My classical lineage is short and Germanic. Erwin Schwarz-Reiflingen > Heinz Justen > me.
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Re: Your musical lineage?

Post by Jim Davidson » Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:25 am

Segovia > Fisk > Mouffe > Me

No pressure :lol:
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Re: Your musical lineage?

Post by khayes » Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:52 am

Sophocles Papas(friend of Segovia), my teacher (David Walbert), me....where the lineage ends!
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Re: Your musical lineage?

Post by mts132 » Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:03 pm

I wish I knew.

Steven Barnes (Philadelphia area, Pennsylvania, USA)>Me

Maybe someone here can help me piece it together if they are familiar with him some how. I don't think he's alive anymore. One of the biggest regrets I have is losing contact. When I look back, he really was one of the largest influences in my entire life. I imagine it's that way for everyone that plays.

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Re: Your musical lineage?

Post by Michael Lazar » Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:13 pm

Andres Segovia, Eli Kassner, Walter Falk, me

Kassner students included Liona Boyd, Norbert Kraft Jesse Cook.

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Re: Your musical lineage?

Post by David Norton » Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:34 pm

mts132 wrote:
Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:03 pm
I wish I knew.

Steven Barnes (Philadelphia area, Pennsylvania, USA)>Me

Maybe someone here can help me piece it together if they are familiar with him some how. I don't think he's alive anymore. One of the biggest regrets I have is losing contact. When I look back, he really was one of the largest influences in my entire life. I imagine it's that way for everyone that plays.
Are you speaking of THIS Steve Barnes? He lives in Doylestown. His wife Bunny Barnes is on Facebook. He lived in Salt Lake City for a few years, which is how we met.
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Re: Your musical lineage?

Post by Ramon Amira » Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:48 pm

Classical - Francisco Tarrega > Daniel Fortea > Mario Escudero > me.

Flamenco - Ramon Montoya > Mario Escudero > me.

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Re: Your musical lineage?

Post by oski79 » Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:48 pm

I have two. I'm only know of the first two steps in each case though.

Tom Johnson - Jason Williams - Me

Dušan Bogdanović - Eric Cabalo - Me
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Re: Your musical lineage?

Post by bear » Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:56 pm

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Re: Your musical lineage?

Post by mts132 » Sat Nov 11, 2017 5:27 pm

David Norton wrote:
Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:34 pm
mts132 wrote:
Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:03 pm
I wish I knew.

Steven Barnes (Philadelphia area, Pennsylvania, USA)>Me

Maybe someone here can help me piece it together if they are familiar with him some how. I don't think he's alive anymore. One of the biggest regrets I have is losing contact. When I look back, he really was one of the largest influences in my entire life. I imagine it's that way for everyone that plays.
Are you speaking of THIS Steve Barnes? He lives in Doylestown. His wife Bunny Barnes is on Facebook. He lived in Salt Lake City for a few years, which is how we met.

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That's hilarious for so many reasons but mostly because my parents also live in Doylestown. LOL @ me!!! So much for him being dead. Thank you for doing in 5 minutes what I could not do in 20 years. I truly appreciate it.

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Re: Your musical lineage?

Post by Tomzooki » Sat Nov 11, 2017 5:47 pm

Interesting thread :-)

Ida Presti and Alexandre Lagoya - Martin Prevel - Paul-André Gagnon - me
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Re: Your musical lineage?

Post by Erik Zurcher » Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:42 pm

Interesting lineage! Did Martin Prevel receive lessons from both Ida Presti and Alexandre Lagoya?
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Re: Your musical lineage?

Post by Kent » Sun Nov 12, 2017 12:34 am

Tomzooki wrote:
Sat Nov 11, 2017 5:47 pm
Interesting thread :-)

Ida Presti and Alexandre Lagoya - Martin Prevel - Paul-André Gagnon - me
Ida Presti.. Impressive!
I though we all started with Tarrega & Sor.

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