How to play copyrighted music on the forum

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How to play copyrighted music on the forum

Post by GeoffB » Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:29 pm

As we all know, recordings of music which is still under copyright cannot normally by uploaded on the forum. However, a number of enterprising members have managed to obtain permission from the necessary copyright holders in order to play pieces here which would normally be excluded.

You can see a list here, showing who has given permission. Sometimes that permission is given for an individual member only, and sometimes extended to all forum members. Sometimes it covers particular works, and sometimes it covers all works of a composer.

There must be many more composers who would be prepared to allow their compositions to be played on the forum but have never been asked, and we encourage members to consider doing so.

Any member can ask a composer (in writing or by email) for permission to publish here a recording of one, several, or all of his works. A composer might give such permission to a single member or perhaps to all members of the Delcamp forums, so it might be useful to establish this too. By securing permission you could be doing a great service to the other forum members.

In the case of a published edition, you would need to get the publisher's permission too, and for an arrangement you would also need the arranger's permission.

Any member who obtains the necessary permissions should send a copy to M. Delcamp or to any moderator and wait for an acknowledgement before uploading the recording on the forum. Email exchanges giving permission may be copied and pasted (including Sender and Addressee details) into a private message for forwarding. Written letters will need to be scanned and sent digitally.

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Re: Playing copyrighted music on the forum

Post by Pragueguy » Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:18 am

A very good idea and I surely agree!

Mike

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Post by John Kotopka » Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:56 am

This is great news!

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Re: How to play copyrighted music on the forum

Post by GeoffB » Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:23 pm

Please see the updated rules here for several recent additions to the list of composers and arrangers who have granted permission for all forum members to play their works here, for instance Marlos Nobre, Victor Villadangos, and Máximo Diego Pujol. My thanks to Pragueguy and goni for their ongoing commitment to adding names to this list.

A specially welcome addition is the publisher Chanterelle (thanks again to goni). They authorise all forum members to publish recordings of pieces from their editions on the forum. Please note, this applies only to music published by Chanterelle, in their edition, and not to music they distribute for other publishers. Please also note, as we understand it, the permission applies only to recordings uploaded directly to the forum, as MP3, WMV or MOV attachments, and not to Youtube files. This opens up a huge amount of contemporary music for us to play on the forum.

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Re: How to play copyrighted music on the forum

Post by Pragueguy » Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:21 am

GeoffB wrote: A specially welcome addition is the publisher Chanterelle (thanks again to goni). They authorise all forum members to publish recordings of pieces from their editions on the forum. Please note, this applies only to music published by Chanterelle, in their edition, and not to music they distribute for other publishers. Please also note, as we understand it, the permission applies only to recordings uploaded directly to the forum, as MP3, WMV or MOV attachments, and not to Youtube files. This opens up a huge amount of contemporary music for us to play on the forum.

Geoff
Geoff/Goni, this is great! It means I am pretty sure for example much of Radames Gnattali's works (estudos, etc.) plus also a lot of Carlevaro and/or Carlevaro-related works. I know I bought a lot of Gnattali from Chanterelle and also Carlevaro too.

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Re: How to play copyrighted music on the forum

Post by sxedio » Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:13 pm

GeoffB wrote:A specially welcome addition is the publisher Chanterelle (thanks again to goni). They authorise all forum members to publish recordings of pieces from their editions on the forum. Please note, this applies only to music published by Chanterelle, in their edition, and not to music they distribute for other publishers.
Wow. That includes the popular Modern Times and other similar books so it can be a benefit to intermediate as well as advanced players. Well done goni!
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Re: How to play copyrighted music on the forum

Post by GeoffB » Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:42 pm

Yes, this is a major concession, and they took some convincing, so Gonzalo (goni) has done us all a great service.

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Re: How to play copyrighted music on the forum

Post by firedoom » Tue Jul 27, 2010 3:46 am

Thanks everyone involved and their hard work to get us permissions to play the list of copyrighted pieces. Thanks copyriight holders and authors for giving us the permission. This forum is just wonderful.

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Re: How to play copyrighted music on the forum

Post by saibharath » Thu Jan 13, 2011 2:54 am

thank you for the information..

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Re: How to play copyrighted music on the forum

Post by Yair Elhanan » Fri Feb 04, 2011 8:04 pm

Good! So no legal issues playing Barrios. Doesn't make it much easier though...
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Re: How to play copyrighted music on the forum

Post by Vito Simplicio » Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:57 pm

Hi Yair,

Welcome to Delcamp. Please take the time to introduce yourself here.

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Re: How to play copyrighted music on the forum

Post by otofreq » Sun May 01, 2011 10:24 pm

I think this is a wonderful idea. I so much enjoy learning music not traditionally included in lessons for beginning guitar. It is a kind of dessert after a meal of meat and potatoes.
Thank you.

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Re: How to play copyrighted music on the forum

Post by eales » Wed Jun 29, 2011 7:25 pm

This is AMAZING! I've just seen the list of permitted works - the generosity accumulated there is truly wonderful

:merci: :merci: to all those kind people. :bravo: :bravo:

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Post by Ismael González Haro » Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:13 pm

:contrat: :merci: :merci: :bravo:
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Re: How to play copyrighted music on the forum

Post by byronz » Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:51 am

Well it's good to know that these publishers and artists now allow their scores to be played for free. Having said this it should be said that legally (in the UK at least), copyright only lasts for 70 years after the creator's/composer's / artist's death.This means that, say the music of Barrios, should become copyright free in 2014. (He died in 1944)
Of course all music by Bach, Sor, Tarrega etc has been copyright free for a very long time. So one should perform that without any fear.

One also must question the whole issue of copyright when we live in an electronic age where everything can be found on the internet, on youtube and p2p sites. Everybody shares information, it's a common agreement. Personally I believe it's time that all art and music were published for free, provided that the person using it states his source ie. agknowledges the autor, doesn't modify the integrity of the content in any way, and of course doesn't then sell the material to others for his own profit.
Anyone who downloads art or music should have the ability to make a voluntary contribution or donation to the author/artist. That's what I think should apply to electronic 'products' like wav, mp3, jpg files. Physical products are different of course because there one is buying something unique, real and tangible.

I believe art is priceless anyway. True art is not concerned with our socialized values. It's from another dimension altogether. So all these millions paid for a Picasso or Van Gogh is nonsense. There has just been an agreement to create another form of currency for people to invest in. It has nothing to do with art at all.
Others will surely disagree with this view of mine, but this just makes for a more varied and interesting world.
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