A432 And DNA Tuning...

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Re: A432 And DNA Tuning...

Postby chiral3 » Sat Sep 26, 2015 3:44 pm

1, 11, 21, 1211, 111221, 312211, 132221, ?
A tree falls the way it leans. - The Lorax

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Re: A432 And DNA Tuning...

Postby Pat Dodson » Sat Sep 26, 2015 4:42 pm

chiral3 wrote:1, 11, 21, 1211, 111221, 312211, 132221, ?


Should not that last item be 13112221? Then the next is
1113213211 :?:

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Re: A432 And DNA Tuning...

Postby MartinCogg » Sat Sep 26, 2015 5:23 pm

Pat Dodson wrote:
Oh Nessie, oh Nessie...


Thanks for bringing this idea to the tableau :wink:

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Re: A432 And DNA Tuning...

Postby Pat Dodson » Sat Sep 26, 2015 5:29 pm

That's terrific Martin! It's a wonderful painting. Will you be exhibiting it?

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Re: A432 And DNA Tuning...

Postby bert » Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:49 pm

MartinCogg wrote:
Pat Dodson wrote:
Oh Nessie, oh Nessie...


Thanks for bringing this idea to the tableau :wink:

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Nice drawing/painting. Will we get to see the complete picture?

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Re: A432 And DNA Tuning...

Postby MartinCogg » Sat Sep 26, 2015 10:15 pm

Thanks Pat and Bert, I might complete it before the year is out,
maybe force myself to exhibit in 2017.

This was the complete picture, beginning-of-the-month state of play, not sure what'll happen next week...

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Re: A432 And DNA Tuning...

Postby chiral3 » Sun Sep 27, 2015 6:41 pm

Pat Dodson wrote:
chiral3 wrote:1, 11, 21, 1211, 111221, 312211, 132221, ?


Should not that last item be 13112221? Then the next is
1113213211 :?:


Ha, yes I made a mistake. Conway's look-and-say sequence. I figured it was appropriate.
A tree falls the way it leans. - The Lorax

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Re: A432 And DNA Tuning...

Postby bert » Sun Sep 27, 2015 7:31 pm

chiral3 wrote:
Pat Dodson wrote:
chiral3 wrote:1, 11, 21, 1211, 111221, 312211, 132221, ?


Should not that last item be 13112221? Then the next is
1113213211 :?:


Ha, yes I made a mistake. Conway's look-and-say sequence. I figured it was appropriate.

Thanks for giving the name. Glad there's wikipedia. I didn't get it without reading that page

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Re: A432 And DNA Tuning...

Postby Cloth Ears » Sun Sep 27, 2015 8:38 pm

Every hard disc drive in the world understands this form of data compression. It is called 'run length limiting' and is hard encoded into disc drive chipsets at a low level. Of course it is in binary, not decimal. That is a fact.

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Re: A432 And DNA Tuning...

Postby Pat Dodson » Sun Sep 27, 2015 9:09 pm

Available from a business called Tools for Wellness are a pair of tuning forks; DNA tuning forks.

These sound D and A (see what they did there?)

I quote from their product information:

"The D & A Tuning Forks are middle D and A in the Pythagorean Scale. They connect our hara (sacral chakra) to our 3rd eye which allows us a deeper understanding of our human experience by connecting our creative passionate nature with our inner seeing & knowing. These aluminum tuning forks represent an outer octave of the sacred spiral. When sounded together they have a most unique effect: some hear angels singing, others become aware of light being encoded in the physical and etheric. Others feel their consciousness spiraling. Still others feel a gateway opening. Health professionals who have experimented with these tuning forks have found they balance the left and right hemispheres of the brain and induce deep states of tranquility. Other professionals indicate they can balance and align the chakras. Still others believe that they actually create balance on a sub-atomic levels and can actual activate new aspects of the DNA helix. Attunement to this interval may heighten evolution, as it expands our perceptions of sound."

Yours for $49.95. Get your DNA helix activated here.

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Re: A432 And DNA Tuning...

Postby Les Montanjees » Mon Sep 28, 2015 3:37 am

Pat Dodson wrote:Available from a business called Tools for Wellness are a pair of tuning forks; DNA tuning forks.

These sound D and A (see what they did there?)

I quote from their product information:

"The D & A Tuning Forks are middle D and A in the Pythagorean Scale. They connect our hara (sacral chakra) to our 3rd eye which allows us a deeper understanding of our human experience by connecting our creative passionate nature with our inner seeing & knowing. These aluminum tuning forks represent an outer octave of the sacred spiral. When sounded together they have a most unique effect: some hear angels singing, others become aware of light being encoded in the physical and etheric. Others feel their consciousness spiraling. Still others feel a gateway opening. Health professionals who have experimented with these tuning forks have found they balance the left and right hemispheres of the brain and induce deep states of tranquility. Other professionals indicate they can balance and align the chakras. Still others believe that they actually create balance on a sub-atomic levels and can actual activate new aspects of the DNA helix. Attunement to this interval may heighten evolution, as it expands our perceptions of sound."

Yours for $49.95. Get your DNA helix activated here.


Pat, you do realize that DNA reversed is AND, implying that DNA development is as yet incomplete. The question now, following your most recent discovery, is whether one needs to purchase 432 D and A tuning forks to complete the process or whether 234 would suffice if they are played upside down. Do you have any thoughts on this?

(Scott Tremblay, what have you done!!??).

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Re: A432 And DNA Tuning...

Postby Pat Dodson » Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:48 am

Les Montanjees wrote:
Pat, you do realize that DNA reversed is AND, implying that DNA development is as yet incomplete. The question now, following your most recent discovery, is whether one needs to purchase 432 D and A tuning forks to complete the process or whether 234 would suffice if they are played upside down. Do you have any thoughts on this?
:desole:
(Scott Tremblay, what have you done!!??).


:lol:

The interesting thing about the tuning forks is the way they demonstrate the internal inconsistency of Pythagorean tuning (and the guff that builds on it.)

The D fork is at 288 hz deriving from two Pythagorean fifths above C at 256 then halving for the octave below (256 x 3/2 x 3/2 ÷ 2 = 288) The fifth above this gives A = our old friend 432 hz. However this tuning fork is A = 426.7. This derives from A being a third above F and F being a fifth below C. So F = 2/3 × 256 = 170 2/3 and then multiplied by the 5/4 Pythagorean ratio for a third and doubled for the octave above = 426.67.

So A = 426.67 and we'd have to start a whole new line of taking the mick. I'm not sure I've enough cosmic energy to do that, even standing on my head. But it's been fun. :D

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Re: A432 And DNA Tuning...

Postby Les Montanjees » Mon Sep 28, 2015 12:48 pm

Pat Dodson wrote:So A = 426.67 and we'd have to start a whole new line of taking the mick. I'm not sure I've enough cosmic energy to do that, even standing on my head. But it's been fun. :D


Well, I was going to point out that 426.67 Pythagorean millimetres is approximately twice the length of an adult kangaroo femur, but as you hint, it's probably time to move on (and actually do some practice). It has been fun indeed.

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Re: A432 And DNA Tuning...

Postby Jim Frieson » Wed Oct 07, 2015 2:27 pm

I am not sure it makes a great difference with the guitar . There is no such thing as perfect tuning - it is a compromise - especially with the guitar with its fixed frets and varying string diameters . I find the right/appropriate strings to be of importance in how my guitars sound and how they make me feel . But for anyone interested , pure tones and Cymatics is quite interesting . When one considers that we are made up of material , mostly water , subject to vibration , Cymatics and Frequency/Pitch and Rhythm is relevant to both perceived experience and what may be called pre-conscious processing. The words Phase Locking , Entrainment , and Bio-Energetic Psychotronics come to mind .

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Re: A432 And DNA Tuning...

Postby Andrew Fryer » Thu Mar 03, 2016 11:47 am

I bought a tuning fork in C. It has printed on it 261, but it isn't, it's an octave higher than that at 522 Hz.
So out of curiosity, I had a look at what's available.
You can have a set of 13 Wittners for £150+
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You can have them in a case for £400
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Or you can have the case on its own for £36
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For £50 you can have a tuning fork in its own resonance box (as if you couldn't make one)
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You can have A in 435/440/441/442/443/444/445
Not to mention all the medical tuning forks.
For Feng Shui there's this crystal tuner:
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Or you can tune angels:
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You can reduce stress with the Ohm/Earth fork:
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You can have the solfeggio set which uses secret frequencies ("a set of forks in the sacred frequencies known as the Secret Solfeggio. Deciphered by Dr. Joseph Puleo using the ancient Pythagorean method of reducing the verse numbers to their single digit integers, the codes revealed a series 6 of electro-magnetic sound frequencies that correspond to the 6 missing tones of the ancient Solfeggio scale. These original sound frequencies were used in Ancient Gregorian Chants. The chants and their special tones were believed to impart tremendous spiritual blessings when sung in harmony during religious masses. These frequencies can now be produced with the Sacred Solfeggio Tuning Forks. 174 Hz, 285 Hz, 396 Hz, 417 Hz, 528 Hz, 639 Hz, 741 Hz, 852 Hz, 963") - so why are there 9 of them?:
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There are various sets of these:
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And you can even have quartz ones. C# clears your adrenals for a mere £126
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Or there's D# if you want to do some shagging:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sexual-Chakra-Quartz-Crystal-Tuning/dp/B018QFE66E/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1451582419&sr=8-5&keywords=quartz+tuning+fork
Fork me! I wonder if I can get a combination Snark/cock ring.
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