Making the most of what you have

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Making the most of what you have

Post by michael karmon » Fri May 31, 2013 3:10 am

I'm working on a set of short pieces, each based on a single musical idea. It can be difficult to really develop musical material with the guitar, and sometimes it's just easier to come up with new material rather than find inventive ways to use what you already have. Here's a rough draft of one of the pieces. Everything is based on music in the first four bars.
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Re: Making the most of what you have

Post by michael karmon » Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:23 pm

Here's a draft of another little movement, number 14 (out of a projected 21 movements.)
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Re: Making the most of what you have

Post by michael karmon » Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:34 pm

The complete score, called "Sketchbooks (I-V)," is now available for free download at my website:

http://michaelkarmon.com/2013/11/21/sketchbooks-i-v/

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Re: Making the most of what you have

Post by Kent » Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:32 pm

Thank you for the invitation to try out your music. It is always a pleasure to discover new gifts!

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Re: Making the most of what you have

Post by michael karmon » Fri Nov 22, 2013 5:54 pm

Hope you enjoy the music. :)

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Re: Making the most of what you have

Post by michael karmon » Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:05 pm

Here's a wonderful recording by John Oeth of a few of the movements:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8iJNOQ ... e=youtu.be


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8iJNOQ ... e=youtu.be[/youtube]

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Re: Making the most of what you have

Post by delayedMusician » Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:10 pm

well it's hard to give advice...I think you know what you are doing. I myself am wary of the concept 'to develop EVERYTHING from one single idea'. Maybe because considerable technique (whether learned or not) is needed to cause a single idea to continue sounding interesting. I mean, you can invert it, change this or that and preserve the idea, or reharmonize it, yet it can still sound as if 'it's not enough'.

I actually am kind of working on the same problem as you. I don't have it all the times, but it's probably the biggest challenge in the field of composition. I also don't understand why some books etc insist in preferably developing everything from a single idea. This concept, I think, stems from the fugue. But I have never listened to a fugue in it's entirety, funnily enough.

I think it's best to try several things and to stick with whatever seems to work best. Who cares about what Mr Professor says?

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Re: Making the most of what you have

Post by cjrenzi » Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:15 am

Michael!

Thanks for sharing. These were really fun to play through. The constant key changes were exciting and your handling of the motives was very clever. I tend to compose organically as well and it's very satisfying to hear the results. But I often grow 2 or 3 motives at once and permutate/superimpose them as desired.
Here's a piece that has two motives that keep getting tangled up with once another:
http://www.cjrenziguitar.com/wp-content ... riffin.pdf
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCzYgde0kRw[/youtube]

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Re: Making the most of what you have

Post by michael karmon » Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:22 pm

Thanks for taking the time to look at the piece, CJ. And thanks for sharing your composition. I enjoyed reading through it (on piano.) :)

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Re: Making the most of what you have

Post by cmeg1 » Sun Dec 20, 2015 12:43 am

michael karmon wrote:Here's a wonderful recording by John Oeth of a few of the movements:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8iJNOQ ... e=youtu.be


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8iJNOQ ... e=youtu.be[/youtube]
Sounds great.

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