Switched to Classical guitar after 10+ years of metal. Such a wonderful instrument for Composition

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camer138

Switched to Classical guitar after 10+ years of metal. Such a wonderful instrument for Composition

Postby camer138 » Fri May 01, 2015 9:14 pm

I have been a musician for almost 12 years now and 10 of those years were spent as a complete metalhead. I recently decided it was time for change as so many other things in my life were also changing. Nylon guitar so far has been extremely rewarding to play and compose for, a complete breath of fresh air.

Here is my first "classical" composition. (would like to hear from you experts if that is really the genre I'm writing in here)


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Guitar used was a Cordoba GK Pro Negra mic'd with an Electro Voice RE-20 mic running into an SPL Crimson Audio Interface.

I haven't seen any clips of RE-20 users micing up their acoustic guitars with one, as its mainly a vocal mic. I, however, was pleased with the result.. it seems to work well with the sound I'm going for.

I've also been using the guitar to write 2-3 voicings for my orchestral music. So glad I made the switch.

Any other users here go classical after being stuck in a specific genre for so long?

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Re: Switched to Classical guitar after 10+ years of metal. Such a wonderful instrument for Composition

Postby Aseret » Sat May 02, 2015 5:59 am

I am not an expert. The music is very pleasant but I just find the background accompaniement too present.
Thank you for sharing.

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Re: Switched to Classical guitar after 10+ years of metal. Such a wonderful instrument for Composition

Postby Haris Karachristianidis » Tue May 05, 2015 1:22 pm

I am not an expert too. Very nice composition and playing.
I hope you did not entirely quit playing metal.

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Re: Switched to Classical guitar after 10+ years of metal. Such a wonderful instrument for Composition

Postby tormodg » Tue May 05, 2015 1:33 pm

It's nice! Not exactly "classical" IMHO, more of a crossover piece which is sweet and smooth. The synth strings are too loud for my taste, and the attack is a bit too soft so they sound a bit "slow on the uptake" to me. But well done.
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Re: Switched to Classical guitar after 10+ years of metal. Such a wonderful instrument for Composition

Postby guitarlojak » Wed May 06, 2015 6:36 pm

It's interesting that you call the guitar a wonderful instrument for composition.
I think different: The guitar is actually the poorest instrument at all!
It can't play loudly melodies, it's tone is very short. If you want to play counterpoint you are limited by your fingers. If you wanna play proper harmonies it is the same. Composer like Carulli, Carcassi, Giuliani use very poor harmonies because it's hard to fulfill all the rules of those days: 7th goes down to 3th, no 8th parallels, no 5th parallels. Giuliani actually breaks those rules sometimes.
For Composition piano is much better. If you wanna learn a lot - study Chorals by J.S.Bach or his inventions, or the school of counterpoint by Fux.

At least Hector Berlioz who was a really great composer was a guitarist. But he wrote no piece for guitar...
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Re: Switched to Classical guitar after 10+ years of metal. Such a wonderful instrument for Composition

Postby tormodg » Wed May 06, 2015 6:50 pm

guitarlojak wrote:The guitar is actually the poorest instrument at all!...For Composition piano is much better.


Hector Berlioz has been discussed at Delcamp before as you probably know:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=60348

And he is listed on this prestigious Wikipedia page - Chronological list of composers for the classical guitar.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... onological)

I find the guitar to be a wonderful instrument for composition. Can't say agree with a single of your characteristics.
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camer138

Re: Switched to Classical guitar after 10+ years of metal. Such a wonderful instrument for Composition

Postby camer138 » Fri May 08, 2015 1:57 pm

Thanks for the comments guys.

I guess my comparison was to electric guitar. When it comes to composing any sort of multi instrument music the classical guitar gives me the ability to play multiple voices at once. Of course piano is the best instrument for composition, but my piano skills don't touch my guitar skills.

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Re: Switched to Classical guitar after 10+ years of metal. Such a wonderful instrument for Composition

Postby sxedio » Fri May 08, 2015 3:14 pm

Hey, interesting approach. Popular internet wisdom is to use condenser mics for guitar but the high end dynamic you are using is probably equally good,as it does address the issues associated with standard dynamics (off axis coloration and proximity effect).
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Re: Switched to Classical guitar after 10+ years of metal. Such a wonderful instrument for Composition

Postby Woby » Tue Nov 17, 2015 2:53 pm

As far as composing on guitar. I think limitations open up new opportunity. Also if you tackle such limits you would improve both as a composer and a guitarist.

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Re: Switched to Classical guitar after 10+ years of metal. Such a wonderful instrument for Composition

Postby Mick the Ramirez Man » Tue Nov 17, 2015 10:35 pm

Congratulations on your metamorphosis! I am an ex-rocker; no regrets. Great little composition!!! :okok:

Want some fun? Go into your local rock guitar shop and sit down and play Classical Guitar. The rockers will all stand around in reverence and awe! :wink:
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Re: Switched to Classical guitar after 10+ years of metal. Such a wonderful instrument for Composition

Postby Carlos » Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:57 pm

Cool stuff! Thanks for sharing and best wishes for your composition activities!


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