BM Brand Classical Guitars

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BM Brand Classical Guitars

Post by Purdy Bear » Sat Nov 07, 2015 3:33 pm

Please can anyone tell me about the brand BM, that is made in Spain? I have seen some say they have an Admira BM, but the inside sticker is completely different from the Admira one. The BM has a trumpet and notation music with the name underneath or a senorita dancing, where the Admira all have a different picture or just the name.

The names are very similar as well, for instance the Admira has a model called the Concerto and the BM is called the Concert, like wise there is a Concerto Grande and a Concert Grand.

Are the BMs in a similar price bracket to the Admira or is it one of those mass copies one needs to be aware of?

I'd love to hear what you think, as the Admira is on my list for future guitars and the BM brand is confusing me. I do understand the Admira does do a BM but they have different stickers from the ones I'm looking at.


Examples of:
The Admira sticker
https://ssli.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTAyNFg1N ... q/$_86.JPG
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-uCU7ihaiao0/T ... MIRA+2.jpg
http://www.jedistar.com/images/guitar/admira_label.jpg


The BM sticker
http://www.bruunari.nl/pics/bl_111_pic5.jpg

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Re: BM Brand Classical Guitars

Post by dandan » Sat Nov 07, 2015 3:41 pm

The BM ones are just older versions of the same guitars. BM (Barnes & Mullins) used to import and distribute Admira guitars.
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Re: BM Brand Classical Guitars

Post by Purdy Bear » Sat Nov 07, 2015 3:46 pm

OHhhhhhhhhhhh I see, thanks for the explanation!

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Re: BM Brand Classical Guitars

Post by Stephen Kenyon » Sat Nov 07, 2015 4:14 pm

Dandan is right. A decent B&M can be quite a pleasant instrument. Overall, Admira have improved their product a whole lot since those days though. In my experience.
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Re: BM Brand Classical Guitars

Post by dta721 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:03 am

Purdy Bear wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2015 3:33 pm
Please can anyone tell me about the brand BM, that is made in Spain? I have seen some say they have an Admira BM, but the inside sticker is completely different from the Admira one. The BM has a trumpet and notation music with the name underneath or a senorita dancing, where the Admira all have a different picture or just the name.

The names are very similar as well, for instance the Admira has a model called the Concerto and the BM is called the Concert, like wise there is a Concerto Grande and a Concert Grand.

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The BM sticker
http://www.bruunari.nl/pics/bl_111_pic5.jpg
How do you and other owners find the BM sound?

In my recent quest for a good used classical guitar, I came across one BM labeled as Concert Grande, see attached photos. At the time I thought it was all solid, thus bought it even though it was not perfect. Noteworthy is the bridge had a minor lift :( . I then had it fixed from a guitar shop owner with some wood glue, who also lowered the saddle a bit and restrung with D'Addario EJ25B Pro-Arte Composite Flamenco (apparently he picked the most expensive set available at the time). Later on when I learned how to look at the sound hole at an angle to verify if top solid, it is most likely laminated to me.

Having said that, the BM Concert Grande sounds very decent with bright treble and loud bass, way much better than my old Yammy (beginner) CG 130! However, I don't know whether the strings are more of flamenco than classical, I found the bright treble not as sustaining as I would like to hear.

I am tempted to replace the strings again with some normal tension strings, hoping to improve the treble sound to have more ringing, assuming the flamenco strings tend to be less sustaining by nature (or design)?

What do you think about the Savarez 540R Alliance Classical Guitar Strings, Standard Tension? What other strings would you recommend?

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Re: BM Brand Classical Guitars

Post by Stephen Kenyon » Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:35 am

Its prob all laminate but should sound decent enough assuming you got it for a good price. The strings they put on sound misguided, I'd start with a set of something completely normal then experiment from there, e.g. D'Addario normal tension.
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Re: BM Brand Classical Guitars

Post by dta721 » Thu Sep 14, 2017 5:04 pm

Thanks for your advice, Stephen! It seems common sense enough to start experimenting with a D'Addario normal tension! :)

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Re: BM Brand Classical Guitars

Post by hesson11 » Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:10 am

I'm guessing that when they came up with the name BM, there were no English speakers in the room. :-)
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Re: BM Brand Classical Guitars

Post by Stephen Kenyon » Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:50 am

hesson11 wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:10 am
I'm guessing that when they came up with the name BM, there were no English speakers in the room. :-)
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BM = Barnes & Mullins, so yes there were, founded in 1895.
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Re: BM Brand Classical Guitars

Post by hesson11 » Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:51 pm

Stephen Kenyon wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:50 am
hesson11 wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:10 am
I'm guessing that when they came up with the name BM, there were no English speakers in the room. :-)
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BM = Barnes & Mullins, so yes there were, founded in 1895.
I appreciate the info, Stephen, but my post was based on an English-language abbreviation for a certain bodily function. Hence the smiley face!
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Re: BM Brand Classical Guitars

Post by Stephen Kenyon » Sat Sep 16, 2017 9:06 am

hesson11 wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:51 pm
Stephen Kenyon wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:50 am
hesson11 wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:10 am
I'm guessing that when they came up with the name BM, there were no English speakers in the room. :-)
-Bob
BM = Barnes & Mullins, so yes there were, founded in 1895.
I appreciate the info, Stephen, but my post was based on an English-language abbreviation for a certain bodily function. Hence the smiley face!
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I guessed that but wasn't going to 'go there' :desole:
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Re: BM Brand Classical Guitars

Post by madrilla » Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:12 pm

Reminds me of the Spanish word for year, año. You should always put the tilde on the n, as in Ramirez 130 años. Otherwise it means something else which would be hilarious to spanish speakers.

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Re: BM Brand Classical Guitars

Post by Laudiesdad69 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:28 am

madrilla wrote:
Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:12 pm
Reminds me of the Spanish word for year, año. You should always put the tilde on the n, as in Ramirez 130 años. Otherwise it means something else which would be hilarious to spanish speakers.
How do I put the tilde on the n? I've been spelling Anyos instead of the other way?

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Re: BM Brand Classical Guitars

Post by dta721 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:12 pm

Laudiesdad69 wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:28 am
madrilla wrote:
Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:12 pm
Reminds me of the Spanish word for year, año. You should always put the tilde on the n, as in Ramirez 130 años. Otherwise it means something else which would be hilarious to spanish speakers.
How do I put the tilde on the n? I've been spelling Anyos instead of the other way?
I don't think the forum setting as it is would have a full keyboard with symbols like ñ, but someone can correct me :) ! How I just did is painstakingly copy a symbol when editing a Word doc, and then paste to this message.

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Re: BM Brand Classical Guitars

Post by madrilla » Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:56 pm

Laudiesdad69 wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:28 am
madrilla wrote:
Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:12 pm
Reminds me of the Spanish word for year, año. You should always put the tilde on the n, as in Ramirez 130 años. Otherwise it means something else which would be hilarious to spanish speakers.
How do I put the tilde on the n? I've been spelling Anyos instead of the other way?
Try ctrl + alt + n, that's what I used.

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