New Or Secondhand?

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Re: New Or Secondhand?

Post by DerekB » Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:51 pm

dandan wrote:Whereabouts in the UK are you? If you're anywhere near the Northwest Nugent guitars have a few around your price point which would be worth checking out.
It's always useful to know where people live when they are asking for advice on buying guitars. If you are within reach of Warrington you could not do better than to visit Tony Nugent.

In the south of England, Paul Gregory (Maestoso Music) is another source of good used guitars. He is currently advertising guitars by Pablo Requena and Antonio Raya Pardo which are just above your price bracket. Remember that with both Tony and Paul you don't have to add the dreaded VAT to the price shown. I have bought guitars from both of them and can assure you that they will make parting with your money a real pleasure.
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Re: New Or Secondhand?

Post by Lovemyguitar » Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:56 pm

I would recommend buying second-hand in your price-range (or any price-range!), if you have no qualms about a pre-played guitar: you will almost inevitably get a better instrument for the value.

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Re: New Or Secondhand?

Post by Stephen Kenyon » Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:08 pm

Another point about secondhand guitars is that, assuming an instrument has been played reasonably often for a longish period, it will be well played-in. Any brand new guitar you choose after many comparisons in a shop or studio, will change radically over 6-12 months (assuming as the new owner you play it in yourself!). Theoretically, different playing styles and habits might affect precisely how a used guitar will sound, but any such effect is probably insignificant in the circumstances.
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Re: New Or Secondhand?

Post by markodarko » Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:39 pm

Stephen Kenyon wrote:Any brand new guitar you choose after many comparisons in a shop or studio, will change radically over 6-12 months
"Radically", Stephen? A slip of the exaggeration I dear say. :mrgreen:
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Re: New Or Secondhand?

Post by Pat Dodson » Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:51 pm

markodarko wrote:
Stephen Kenyon wrote:Any brand new guitar you choose after many comparisons in a shop or studio, will change radically over 6-12 months
"Radically", Stephen? A slip of the exaggeration I dear say. :mrgreen:
Well, I guess Stephen has a different I dear. :wink:

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Re: New Or Secondhand?

Post by markodarko » Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:02 pm

Pat Dodson wrote:Well, I guess Stephen has a different I dear. :wink:
Oh dear! A slip of the comma, a deer might say. :casque:
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Re: New Or Secondhand?

Post by Stephen Kenyon » Wed Oct 19, 2016 6:10 pm

markodarko wrote:
Pat Dodson wrote:Well, I guess Stephen has a different I dear. :wink:
Oh dear! A slip of the comma, a deer might say. :casque:
Dear me ...

OK, I guess its a question of how one is calibrating. I did mean 'radically' because that is how I have thought, in retrospect, about the changes in guitars I have been involved with from new. I appreciate the whole question of playing is somewhat fraught and in some quarters, contentious, so merely, my experience has been that without changing the fundamental nature of the sound, it is changed in a very major way. I call that radical.
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Re: New Or Secondhand?

Post by Montgomery » Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:58 am

This has turned into a really interesting thread (well for me anyway). I can spend more money it's just whether my level of classical guitar playing is worthy of a better instrument. I'm in the midlands by the way but traveling isn't a problem as I could tie it in with a short holiday for a few days.

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Re: New Or Secondhand?

Post by Pat Dodson » Thu Oct 20, 2016 12:43 pm

Montgomery wrote:This has turned into a really interesting thread (well for me anyway). I can spend more money it's just whether my level of classical guitar playing is worthy of a better instrument. I'm in the midlands by the way but traveling isn't a problem as I could tie it in with a short holiday for a few days.
You have a sweet shop of options then depending on where you fancy a short break and how diaries fit.

In the midlands are Gap Guitars (new guitars in your price range but probably no s/h), Birmingham Guitar Centre (ditto) and Stafford CG Centre (new and a couple of s/h).

In the North West are Nugent Guitars (3 or 4 s/h) and Forsyth's (many new but it's not a CG specialist. )

If visiting either of the above you might try fitting in visits to the James Lister, Ramirez 1a and David Rouse guitars advertised on this forum if you can stretch your budget a little.

If you go South or South West then, depending on where you base yourself you might visit one or more of London Guitar Studio (new and 3 or 4 s/h), Kent Guitar Classics (new including the Cadenza), Maestoso Music (new and a couple of s/h), Spanish Guitar Centre (new and perhaps 1 s/h) and Classical Guitar Plus (new)

In the Glasgow area are DK Classical Guitars (a couple of s/h if you can stretch a little), the Antonio Picado advertised here and possibly some new CGs in your price range at Glasgow Guitar Studio (no detail on website.)

I am less sure re Wales and Ireland but no doubt there are folk here who do know.

Happy hunting. Do let us know how you get on.

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Re: New Or Secondhand?

Post by UKsteve » Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:39 pm

Montgomery wrote: I can spend more money it's just whether my level of classical guitar playing is worthy of a better instrument.
There are a zillion threads here about this: Irrespective of ability, get the very best you can. A great instrument will inspire you to pick it up, a mediocre one to put it down.

The best thing I ever did was to buy a great guitar almost from the begining. I loved the sound of it, even if I couldn't play it as well as I would have liked. I just kept wanting to pick it up.

For me, used is best +++ when you are seeking the most bang for your buck. That's obvious but I accept fully that some regard it as a minefield. Having said that, only one guitar I've ever bought needed a neck reset and I bought that new!

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Re: New Or Secondhand?

Post by Adam » Thu Oct 20, 2016 3:16 pm

UKsteve wrote: There are a zillion threads here about this: Irrespective of ability, get the very best you can. A great instrument will inspire you to pick it up, a mediocre one to put it down.

The best thing I ever did was to buy a great guitar almost from the begining. I loved the sound of it, even if I couldn't play it as well as I would have liked. I just kept wanting to pick it up.
I agree. If you can afford it, nothing wrong with getting a decent instrument... of course on an online forum everyone has an opinion, but it's your money, your ears, your hands. Only you can decide what is best for you.

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Re: New Or Secondhand?

Post by jpryan » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:21 pm

As already said, you'll get better value buying second hand. If you don't know enough to be comfortable have someone who knows classical guitars take a look at it for you. I buy most cars used but always have my mechanic look at them first.
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Re: New Or Secondhand?

Post by Montgomery » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:46 pm

Kent Guitar Classics looks an excellent shop, I might pop down there. I notice that James Lister has a Spruce 2014 for £2295.00 and I'm seriously considering contacting him.

Thanks to everyone that has replied it has really helped.

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Re: New Or Secondhand?

Post by AndreiKrylov » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:59 pm

Montgomery wrote:Hi, I want to purchase another guitar for around £1500.00. The question is should I look for a new one or secondhand one, what's your thoughts please? I'm not sure which way to go.
the best is one which you will really like :)
Thanks!

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Re: New Or Secondhand?

Post by Adam » Thu Oct 20, 2016 6:03 pm

Montgomery wrote:I notice that James Lister has a Spruce 2014 for £2295.00 and I'm seriously considering contacting him.
Now yer talkin' ... :twisted:

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