Wanted: Andrea Tacchi guitar COCLEA OR BOUCHET

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Re: Wanted: Andrea Tacchi guitar COCLEA OR BOUCHET

Post by classicalguitar65 » Sun Dec 25, 2016 9:02 pm

Anyone know of any Andrea Tacchi Coclea guitar for sale or coming up for sale?
Thank you for your help!

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Re: Wanted: Andrea Tacchi guitar COCLEA OR BOUCHET

Post by petermc61 » Sun Dec 25, 2016 9:40 pm

There is a 2010 spruce Coclea listed on the GFA website for sale section. It's been there about 2 years.

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Re: Wanted: Andrea Tacchi guitar COCLEA OR BOUCHET

Post by classicalguitar65 » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:18 am

HE SOLD THAT A LONG TIME AGO BUT NEVER TOOK THE AD DOWN, THANKS FOR YOUR HELP! MUCH APPRECIATED!

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Re: Wanted: Andrea Tacchi guitar COCLEA OR BOUCHET

Post by Jack Douglas » Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:16 am

Hello again,
Aaron Green, a Delcamp member sold, I'm not sure how recently, a Cochlea. You might check with him to see if he knows of another one for sale. Like others have stated buying from Andrea requires a lengthy wait time. Also check with Dream Guitars in NC. They sold a Bouchet model a while back.
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Re: Wanted: Andrea Tacchi Bouchet guitar

Post by zupfgeiger » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:56 pm

petermc61 wrote:Please be aware that unless you order one specifically it is likely to have a higher than normal action. That is minimum 4.5/3.5+mm with little or no spare saddle. That is how he seems to build them.

I know, I owned one and sold it despite its good sound. I have been looking for a lower (normal) action sample ever since without any luck.
Don't know whether Robert has found his Tacchi guitar meanwhile but I can second what Peter said about the action of Andrea's guitars. Some years ago I purchased a Coclea which had a very high action and no room for manoever on the saddle. Sold it after a short while although the sound was devine.

But meanwhile Andrea has a slightly different view on action, although the bulk of his professional clients just demand higher strings for different reasons. Last year he built a Garcia copy for me. During construction I discussed the action issue (and a lot of other details) with him and as a result this guitar is very easy to play with low action less than 4.00 mm on 6. string - without any buzzing.

BTW this Garcia is amazing in looks and - more important - soundwise. Some weeks ago, at a masterclass Wulfin Lieske in Cologne had organized, I had the chance to compare mine with a 2014 Tacchi Bouchet and some other top notch luthier guitars. The Garcia ranked first for its emotional "Spanish" touch which the Bouchet was clearly lacking. The Bouchet had the most perfect sonic character one can imagine with no faults at all. But those who cherish the traditional Spanish sound will maybe miss something. My very personal impression is that the Garcia is Andrea's favorite model which he would like to build more often. I know that he is planning to build a Garcia for himself, but doesn't find the time as his order book for the next years is quite full.
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Re: Wanted: Andrea Tacchi guitar COCLEA OR BOUCHET

Post by Tom » Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:01 pm

Owned and played his Bouchet before ... It is one of those guitars that any guitarist must play once in their life time, period.

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Re: Wanted: Andrea Tacchi guitar COCLEA OR BOUCHET

Post by Douglass Scott » Wed May 10, 2017 3:22 pm

Hello,
I have a friend and client who has decided to sell his Tacchi Bouchet guitar. Not very old and in great condition. I played it a few years ago and didn't notice the action being unusually high.... Anyways, if interested, PM. Thanks!

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Re: Wanted: Andrea Tacchi Bouchet guitar

Post by zupfgeiger » Tue Sep 05, 2017 8:49 am

petermc61 wrote:
Sun Nov 06, 2016 9:10 pm
Please be aware that unless you order one specifically it is likely to have a higher than normal action. That is minimum 4.5/3.5+mm with little or no spare saddle. That is how he seems to build them.

I know, I owned one and sold it despite its good sound. I have been looking for a lower (normal) action sample ever since without any luck.
I was in Florence over the last weekend to have my Garcia copy repolished by Andrea and had the opportunity to try several of his guitars. That's why I would like to come back to this thread and to Peter's judgement. I can confirm that there is not the slightest playability issue with his Bouchet, Simplicio or Garcia models. I played his first ever Bouchet built in 1995 and it is not only a fine sounding instrument but also easy to play with action at 4 mm with plenty of room for manoeuver on the saddle. Also his 1998 Simplicio copy (not for sale) is easy to play with tolerable action. My own Garcia is at 3,8 mm and plays like butter. And our fellow delcamper dofpic recently purchased a beautiful Simplicio and confirmed that it is easy to play.

Coclea is a different story. I made the same experience as Peter with a Coclea which I owned some years ago and sold it because of playability issues with high action and no space at the saddle left for lowering. Last Saturday I played a ready for delivery Coclea Thucea in his workshop. Beautiful guitar with a rosette to die for. Not too fancy and extravagant, just beautiful. Also the sound was great, full, crisp, well balanced and with huge power. But the saddle had very little space for lowering. Andrea told me that this was related to the construction of this model. Nonetheless most people I know who opt for this model are young professionals whow are less concerned by high action and playability issues. Some months ago I played Tal Hurwitz' cedar Coclea and for me as a hobbyist it was almost unplayable. So hard and stiff was the fretboard. Tal just shrugged his shoulders. It was no issue for him. Nonetheless after trying out my Tacchi Garcia he was intrigued not only by the refined sound, but also by the easy way to play this instrument. :)
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Andrea Tacchi, Enrique Garcia model, Spruce/BRAZ, 2016
Giovanni Tacchi, Daniel Friederich copy, cedar/EIR, 2017

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Re: Wanted: Andrea Tacchi guitar COCLEA OR BOUCHET

Post by Malina » Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:44 am

It is very interesting how individual the receptions of those instruments actually are. As a student of Maria Luisa Anido I know the original Garcia which Andrea used as a model for those "Garcia" guitars and I must say the Tacchi does not soung like a Garcia. It still is a Tacchi and that is very good. Finally guitar makers recognize that good things can not be improoved all the time and can not be copied very easily. I was actually at the same guitar meeting in Cologne and brought my 2014 Bouchet Tacchi, which "lacks the Spanish sound ", like it was described. Well, my Tacchi is indeed a perfect guitar, which sounds like a beautiful, soft Bouchet. And those guitars do not sound very "Spanish". My Tacchi though had in the beginning the same problems that this Garcia capy still has. That is an instability in its intonation. I had my Bouchet inspected and then corrected by a quart of a mm only and then it was very stable and calm. All these alterations I have carefully discussed with Andrea. The action, after long discussions with Andrea during the building process, is only 3,2 mm at the 12th fret for the bass and 2,5 mm for the treble. Extremely comfortable to play and not at all buzzing. It is the almost perfect guitar for me, if I could only have a little rounder and fuller neck. Because of the neck/head connection Andrea prefers, the neck itsself is a little on the flat side and a bit too thin. I wish it had the neck of a Bouchet. But all in all Andrea Tacchi is a star in the huge number of contemporary guitar makers and I admire his work very much. I only played vintage instruments so far, like a 47 Hauser or Santos etc. , but after I had the Tacchi, I do not miss any of the musical magic that the superb vintage guitars have in this contemporary instrument.

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Re: Wanted: Andrea Tacchi guitar COCLEA OR BOUCHET

Post by GeoffB » Sat Nov 04, 2017 1:03 pm

Hi Malina, welcome to the forum. Could I ask you to introduce yourself here?

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Re: Wanted: Andrea Tacchi guitar COCLEA OR BOUCHET

Post by Dofpic » Sat Nov 04, 2017 2:22 pm

The Tacchi Simplicio model has a much easier neck shape and plays like butter and sound better than the Coclea Thusea or Bouchet IMO. Have not heard the Ccoclea model But super hard to find. Also the most beautiful guitar I have laid my eyes on.
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Re: Wanted: Andrea Tacchi guitar COCLEA OR BOUCHET

Post by Vincent Tan » Sun Nov 05, 2017 4:29 am

classicalguitar65 wrote:
Sun Nov 06, 2016 8:12 pm
Hello....I am interested in buying one as I always wanted to have one for my personal playing pleasure. Please contact me if you would like to sell yours.
Thank you
Robert
Hi! I have 2 Coclea guitars from Andrea Tacchi that I can sell. One from 2005 and another from 2010. I will send you a private message!

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Re: Wanted: Andrea Tacchi Bouchet guitar

Post by Vincent Tan » Sun Nov 05, 2017 4:34 am

zupfgeiger wrote:
Tue Sep 05, 2017 8:49 am
petermc61 wrote:
Sun Nov 06, 2016 9:10 pm
Please be aware that unless you order one specifically it is likely to have a higher than normal action. That is minimum 4.5/3.5+mm with little or no spare saddle. That is how he seems to build them.

I know, I owned one and sold it despite its good sound. I have been looking for a lower (normal) action sample ever since without any luck.
I was in Florence over the last weekend to have my Garcia copy repolished by Andrea and had the opportunity to try several of his guitars. That's why I would like to come back to this thread and to Peter's judgement. I can confirm that there is not the slightest playability issue with his Bouchet, Simplicio or Garcia models. I played his first ever Bouchet built in 1995 and it is not only a fine sounding instrument but also easy to play with action at 4 mm with plenty of room for manoeuver on the saddle. Also his 1998 Simplicio copy (not for sale) is easy to play with tolerable action. My own Garcia is at 3,8 mm and plays like butter. And our fellow delcamper dofpic recently purchased a beautiful Simplicio and confirmed that it is easy to play.

Coclea is a different story. I made the same experience as Peter with a Coclea which I owned some years ago and sold it because of playability issues with high action and no space at the saddle left for lowering. Last Saturday I played a ready for delivery Coclea Thucea in his workshop. Beautiful guitar with a rosette to die for. Not too fancy and extravagant, just beautiful. Also the sound was great, full, crisp, well balanced and with huge power. But the saddle had very little space for lowering. Andrea told me that this was related to the construction of this model. Nonetheless most people I know who opt for this model are young professionals whow are less concerned by high action and playability issues. Some months ago I played Tal Hurwitz' cedar Coclea and for me as a hobbyist it was almost unplayable. So hard and stiff was the fretboard. Tal just shrugged his shoulders. It was no issue for him. Nonetheless after trying out my Tacchi Garcia he was intrigued not only by the refined sound, but also by the easy way to play this instrument. :)
I have heard many times about playability issues on Cocleas but it is weird that I have not encountered this on the 3 Andrea Tacchi guitars I own. The 2010 Coclea which I used the most on performances have around 4mm/3mm with still a lot of spare saddle. The 2005 as well (a little higher but again a lot of spare saddle). I saw your Tacchi Garcia on Facebook and I must say, this had me messaging Andrea about it! :D Very exciting stuff! Congratulations on the acquisition

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Re: Wanted: Andrea Tacchi guitar COCLEA OR BOUCHET

Post by Vincent Tan » Sun Nov 05, 2017 4:36 am

Malina wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:44 am
It is very interesting how individual the receptions of those instruments actually are. As a student of Maria Luisa Anido I know the original Garcia which Andrea used as a model for those "Garcia" guitars and I must say the Tacchi does not soung like a Garcia. It still is a Tacchi and that is very good. Finally guitar makers recognize that good things can not be improoved all the time and can not be copied very easily. I was actually at the same guitar meeting in Cologne and brought my 2014 Bouchet Tacchi, which "lacks the Spanish sound ", like it was described. Well, my Tacchi is indeed a perfect guitar, which sounds like a beautiful, soft Bouchet. And those guitars do not sound very "Spanish". My Tacchi though had in the beginning the same problems that this Garcia capy still has. That is an instability in its intonation. I had my Bouchet inspected and then corrected by a quart of a mm only and then it was very stable and calm. All these alterations I have carefully discussed with Andrea. The action, after long discussions with Andrea during the building process, is only 3,2 mm at the 12th fret for the bass and 2,5 mm for the treble. Extremely comfortable to play and not at all buzzing. It is the almost perfect guitar for me, if I could only have a little rounder and fuller neck. Because of the neck/head connection Andrea prefers, the neck itsself is a little on the flat side and a bit too thin. I wish it had the neck of a Bouchet. But all in all Andrea Tacchi is a star in the huge number of contemporary guitar makers and I admire his work very much. I only played vintage instruments so far, like a 47 Hauser or Santos etc. , but after I had the Tacchi, I do not miss any of the musical magic that the superb vintage guitars have in this contemporary instrument.
I agree with this a hundred percent. Although I still look for a guitar with the 'Spanish sound', Andrea Tacchi's guitars are easily my go to instrument. I have had a lot of vintage instruments, too like Hauser, Romanillos, multiple Friederich's and i can say Andrea Tacchi is up there when it comes to the music making aspect of an instrument.

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Re: Wanted: Andrea Tacchi guitar COCLEA OR BOUCHET

Post by Dofpic » Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:42 am

My Tacchi Simplicio model is as good and probably better than any guitar I have ever owned
2011Fritz Ober(maple), 2015 Eric Sahlin, 2006 Greg Byers(fan)2009 Eric Monrad(maple)
2012 Martin Blackwell(for sale), 2003 Tacchi Simplcio satinwood 2017 E. Bottelli 52 Hauser, 2014 Joshua DeJonge Cedar( for sale) 2002 Jeff Elliott spruce.

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