Yamaha gc12 or gc22

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Yamaha gc12 or gc22

Post by helder » Thu Nov 24, 2016 1:50 am

Hello to all.

I need to buy a gc cedar model to my classroom. Anyone tried this 2 models by Yamaha? Can you give me your review? Playability and sound of gc22 realy value €250 more the price of a gc12? Or gc12 is almost the same of a gc22, and its not necessary spend more €250?

gc12 - €750
gc22 - €1000

What is your recomendation?


Thanks!

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Re: Yamaha gc12 or gc22

Post by Debussychopin » Thu Nov 24, 2016 8:16 am

I had both, brand new gc12 and gc22 I still have the gc12. I sold the latter pretty quickly it was very refined and beautifully crafted guitar. Sound was excellent. I kept the gc12 bc I couldn't sell it , nothing wrong w it. It is exceptional too. I actually believe it is better sounding than any Luthier model Cordoba. I dont think there is a quality difference in sound worthy of the extra money over the gc12 but it was very pretty. Thr gc12 ain't too bad looking either. Btw it is still on sale I never play on it just sitting in its case downstairs closet. I prefer my two guitars below but not after dabbling in a lot of factory guitars. I highly recommend either you wont go wrong w any.
I do one day hope to get a gc42 though. I can't imagine how refined it may be after testing outside his two younger siblings.

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Re: Yamaha gc12 or gc22

Post by Beowulf » Thu Nov 24, 2016 5:27 pm

GC22 has rosewood back & sides; GC12 has mahogany back & sides. The GC22 has a gloss finish on the neck; the GC12 has a matte finish on the neck. Apart from that they should be pretty similar as it takes more than €250 to significantly improve the sound. The easiest way to test is to play both instruments and see if you prefer the sound and ease of playing of one over the other. Apart from that it is mostly aesthetic appeal of the appearance.
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Re: Yamaha gc12 or gc22

Post by Guitar-ded » Thu Nov 24, 2016 6:34 pm

As Beowulf says, it comes down to whether you want mahogany or rosewood for the back and sides.
Many people think of mahogany as being only found on 'beginner' guitars and rosewood on 'better' guitars so will pay up to get the rosewood.
Between these two it's probably as simple as that, which back and sides you want.
I doubt there will be much difference between them sound-wise.
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Re: Yamaha gc12 or gc22

Post by helder » Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:15 pm

Thanks to all!!!!

I will buy gc12. But C or S ??? C must be better...

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Re: Yamaha gc12 or gc22

Post by Philosopherguy » Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:56 pm

helder wrote:Thanks to all!!!!

I will buy gc12. But C or S ??? C must be better...
In guitars that are in this price range, I have usually found the cedar guitars are a little better. I had a Yamaha GC-41 in both cedar and spruce a while back and I always thought the cedar was a better sounding guitar. As you get higher in price for guitars, spruce starts to make more sense. A good piece of clear spruce is much more expensive then a good piece of cedar. Then again, you never know. Individual guitars can vary. As a general rule, this is my personal opinion. Once you get into the 2000+ price range, this doesn't really hold true anymore because the material cost starts to lose some significance.

Good luck! I think you are making a good choice on an intermediate guitar. I have always found the Yamaha guitars to be very consistent and balanced sounding.

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Re: Yamaha gc12 or gc22

Post by helder » Fri Nov 25, 2016 9:47 pm

Thanks Philosopherguy. I think like you. In videos gc12c seem to sounds better than gc12s. But there are exceptions...

And gc12c and cg192c... anyone tried????

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Re: Yamaha gc12 or gc22

Post by HNLim » Fri Nov 25, 2016 11:45 pm

Yes! I fully agree that cedar works well for The lower range guitars and spruce for the higher range guitars.
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Re: Yamaha gc12 or gc22

Post by helder » Fri Nov 25, 2016 11:57 pm

And diference beetween gc12c and cg192c?

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Re: Yamaha gc12 or gc22

Post by Philosopherguy » Sat Nov 26, 2016 5:13 am

helder wrote:And diference beetween gc12c and cg192c?
You can compare them on the Yamaha website. But, the GC series is all solid wood guitars. The CG192, I believe, has laminated back and sides. The GC is also the "flagship" line of the Yamaha guitars. The workmanship should be a little higher. Starting at the GC32 is considered the "higher end" of the GC line. But, I have played a 22 and 12 and they were nice guitars for what you pay. The 12 and 22 are made in China, as compared to the 32 and higher that are made in Japan.

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Re: Yamaha gc12 or gc22

Post by HNLim » Sat Nov 26, 2016 6:14 am

Whether laminated or solid B/S, just make sure that the top is solid and not laminate.
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Re: Yamaha gc12 or gc22

Post by Beowulf » Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:49 pm

All of Yamaha's GC and CG series guitars have solid tops. C, CGS and CS40 series do not list solid tops.
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Re: Yamaha gc12 or gc22

Post by helder » Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:12 pm

GC12C is coming soon... I will make a review.

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Re: Yamaha gc12 or gc22

Post by Debussychopin » Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:56 pm

You will like the gc12 I predict. I have it ans is an excellent looking and sounding guitar.

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Re: Yamaha gc12 or gc22

Post by HNLim » Wed Nov 30, 2016 1:23 am

The newer GCs are generally better sounding than the former range comparing for example, GC41 to GC42 or GC31 to GC32.
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