Deal! I don't think that is likely though!Beowulf wrote:You can have mine if I don't like it...Philosopherguy wrote:All this talk of the GC82 is making me want to buy one! hahaha..
Not yet...likely within the next month
The real significant difference is the time and care that goes into a GC82 vs a GC42. Also, the details are different in the types, and likely age, of wood used and these types of things. The finish on the GC82 is french polish applied over a few months, whereas the GC42 finish is likely the regular line of Yamaha poly finish they use on their other Gc level guitars. Not that the regular finish is bad, but it is the time and care that goes into the process that makes the GC82 the guitar it is.
Not exactly excited...so far it has been two months longer than I had expected. However...SavageTofu wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:32 pmThank you.
You must be excited...
I play on a Córdoba Gk pro cypress. I like it. I don't have anything to compare it to. Its not like you can readily play on these finer instruments. I like the fact that Yamaha has monthly financing options through sweetwater or musicians friend... I guess the best way to do research is online. It allows you to narrow down the field. Thank you for answering my questions.
I've been looking at many of the Córdoba master series guitars particularly the Hauser copy... I'll probably look more into that new Custom Ce just because you can plug it in.
I use Daddario Ej46 high tension strings. It is interesting to know, that you might use normal tension strings on finer instruments. Look forward to hearing your thoughts in the future...
I can think of the following differences:
I an interview between Kiyoshi Shomura (Japanese guitarist who studied with Narciso Yepes) and Toshiro Kato (designer of the GC70), both agreed that the C70 was significantly improved in the area of bass response and sustain when compared to the GC30A. Kato indicated that was his goal during the 9 years of development before the GC70 was released in 1983.
I'm not quite sure why the neck joint matters much? hahaha.. Plenty of high end luthier guitars employ a dovetail joint for the neck. But, I haven't looked at the GC42 enough to know what joint they use. I think there are many other things that would influence the sound more then the joint used. As long as it's not going to fall off, then I don't know why people care too much?Beowulf wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:32 pm
I quite agree, and the dovetail is also easier to reset/repair (if necessary). Yamaha is pretty traditional when it comes to its higher level instruments made at the custom shop (GC82S/C, GC42S/C, GC32S/C)...so I doubt dovetails and CNC are involved. They certainly use these manufacturing techniques at lower levels and with steel string acoustics.Philosopherguy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:49 pmI'm not quite sure why the neck joint matters much? hahaha.. Plenty of high end luthier guitars employ a dovetail joint for the neck. But, I haven't looked at the GC42 enough to know what joint they use. I think there are many other things that would influence the sound more then the joint used. As long as it's not going to fall off, then I don't know why people care too much?Beowulf wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:32 pmI would be surprised if the G42 does not have a spanish heel (after all it is around $3600US or $4500CDN). Yamaha's literature indicates that all the GC series necks are shaped by hand, and they have a fair number of luthiers in their guild.
It's all about the final sound and integrity of the instrument. The steps to get to that final product don't matter all that much. There are plenty of methods of achieving the same thing.
The big difference in the 42 and 82 is going to be the wood and the labour used to make the instrument. After all, likely 80% or more(easily) of the price that goes into a guitar is labour. Compared to many other instruments labour on a guitar is pretty cheap! Violin's are ridiculously expensive for something half decent and handmade and the wood isn't any more expensive for a violin then it would be for a guitar.
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