Yamaha GC82 S/C

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Re: Yamaha GC82 S/C

Post by HNLim » Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:05 pm

Beowulf wrote:What do you prefer about the GC70? I considered a GC71...but alas CITES restrictions made one well nigh impossible and I have not seen one already resident in Canada.
I am a great fan of Yamaha GC guitars. I am also a great fan of spruce amd BRW. Since I already own a Yamaha GC30A, and that the GC70 was created during my time in the 1980's, it is quite natural for me to want to own the next in the series.

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Re: Yamaha GC82 S/C

Post by Beowulf » Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:39 am

HNLim wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:05 pm
Beowulf wrote:What do you prefer about the GC70? I considered a GC71...but alas CITES restrictions made one well nigh impossible and I have not seen one already resident in Canada.
I am a great fan of Yamaha GC guitars. I am also a great fan of spruce amd BRW. Since I already own a Yamaha GC30A, and that the GC70 was created during my time in the 1980's, it is quite natural for me to want to own the next in the series.
Great...I wish you the best of luck finding one. I believe that Liona Boyd has one or two for sale on her site. There might be an issue shipping to Singapore, but no harm in checking.
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Re: Yamaha GC82 S/C

Post by HNLim » Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:10 am

Beowulf wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:39 am
HNLim wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:05 pm
Beowulf wrote:What do you prefer about the GC70? I considered a GC71...but alas CITES restrictions made one well nigh impossible and I have not seen one already resident in Canada.
I am a great fan of Yamaha GC guitars. I am also a great fan of spruce amd BRW. Since I already own a Yamaha GC30A, and that the GC70 was created during my time in the 1980's, it is quite natural for me to want to own the next in the series.
Great...I wish you the best of luck finding one. I believe that Liona Boyd has one or two for sale on her site. There might be an issue shipping to Singapore, but no harm in checking.
Hers is cedar.

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Re: Yamaha GC82 S/C

Post by Beowulf » Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:38 pm

HNLim wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:10 am
Beowulf wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:39 am
HNLim wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:05 pm

I am a great fan of Yamaha GC guitars. I am also a great fan of spruce amd BRW. Since I already own a Yamaha GC30A, and that the GC70 was created during my time in the 1980's, it is quite natural for me to want to own the next in the series.
Great...I wish you the best of luck finding one. I believe that Liona Boyd has one or two for sale on her site. There might be an issue shipping to Singapore, but no harm in checking.
Hers is cedar.
I knew that the 1985 instrument was Canadian Cedar, but thought that the 1982 instrument (used in her Tokyo concert) might be spruce. Not so it seems?
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Re: Yamaha GC82 S/C

Post by HNLim » Fri Sep 01, 2017 3:16 pm

I managed to locate 3 Yamaha GC70s on sale in Japan but the thing is how to ship it back to Singapore?

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Re: Yamaha GC82 S/C

Post by Beowulf » Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:30 pm

HNLim wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2017 3:16 pm
I managed to locate 3 Yamaha GC70s on sale in Japan but the thing is how to ship it back to Singapore?
I don't know if it is possible, but I would check with customs in Singapore as to whether or not an older guitar with good proof that the Brazilian rosewood is pre-CITES restrictions can be imported. If it can, you would want to know exactly what documentation would qualify the wood for guaranteed import! Then, find out if the buyer can provide the necessary proofs and export it from Japan.
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Re: Yamaha GC82 S/C

Post by Beowulf » Sun Sep 03, 2017 3:34 pm

P.S. CITES Brazilian rosewood restriction date: June 11, 1992.
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Re: Yamaha GC82 S/C

Post by HNLim » Sun Sep 03, 2017 4:01 pm

Beowulf wrote:
Sun Sep 03, 2017 3:34 pm
P.S. CITES Brazilian rosewood restriction date: June 11, 1992.
So any guitar build before 1992 should clear this hurdle.

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Re: Yamaha GC82 S/C

Post by Philosopherguy » Sun Sep 03, 2017 5:20 pm

HNLim wrote:
Sun Sep 03, 2017 4:01 pm
Beowulf wrote:
Sun Sep 03, 2017 3:34 pm
P.S. CITES Brazilian rosewood restriction date: June 11, 1992.
So any guitar build before 1992 should clear this hurdle.
But you still need to do a bunch of paperwork. Someone on the board here recently bought a Brazilian Yamaha GC from Canada and imported it to the UK. I forget who though; it was whoever bought the gc20 from ashepps, I think. Might want to ask him a few questions. I know it can be done. It is just a case of how hard it is going to be.

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Re: Yamaha GC82 S/C

Post by Beowulf » Mon Sep 04, 2017 2:40 pm

HNLim wrote:
Sun Sep 03, 2017 4:01 pm
Beowulf wrote:
Sun Sep 03, 2017 3:34 pm
P.S. CITES Brazilian rosewood restriction date: June 11, 1992.
So any guitar build before 1992 should clear this hurdle.
Yes, although it is not the date of the build, so much as the date the wood was acquired from legal sources. Yamaha exported GC70s after 1992. I have a 1993 catalogue and Yamaha exported guitars with Jacaranda (Brazilian Rosewood, a.k.a. Dalbergia Nigra) after 1992. The wood used would have been acquired years before, as Yamaha ages the wood used in its GC series for years before it is used to build an instrument. I rather suspect that Yamaha developed the new GC82 (and lower) series with Madagascar Rosewood partly due to the fact that the stores of pre-1992 Jacaranda were exhausted and thus it could no longer export the GC70, etc., series of guitars from Japan.

So, with proper CITES documentation a guitar made after 1992 could be exported as long as the wood pre-dated the listing date for Brazilian Rosewood.

However, guitars sold in Japan would be less likely to come with any CITES Documentation...so pre-1992 would be your best bet. AFAIK, guitars sold for export should have had CITES documentation after the listing date, so if the buyer kept the documentation those instruments "should" also qualify.
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Re: Yamaha GC82 S/C

Post by HNLim » Mon Sep 04, 2017 6:40 pm

The Yamaha GC70 was first introduced in 1984.

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Re: Yamaha GC82 S/C

Post by Beowulf » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:52 pm

HNLim wrote:
Mon Sep 04, 2017 6:40 pm
The Yamaha GC70 was first introduced in 1984.
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Re: Yamaha GC82 S/C

Post by Reymundo » Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:52 pm

I am receiving a GC82S today, that I ordered via Sweetwater in June 2016 (about 15 months ago), the price was $8999 (with 1/2 down on ordering); it was apparently delayed due to changes in CITES required documentation (in early 2017). Matt Masek was the person at Sweetwater that I worked with in ordering it, and he did a good job of keeping me apprised about the status of my order (over the longer then expected wait time). From what I can tell by an online search, the guitar is made using Madagascar Rosewood (since it was being exported out of Japan).
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Re: Yamaha GC82 S/C

Post by Justfun » Thu Sep 07, 2017 4:01 pm

Hi Reymundo

Congrats and please post some pictures if you can.

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Re: Yamaha GC82 S/C

Post by Reymundo » Thu Sep 07, 2017 8:34 pm

Here are a couple of pictures from Sweetwater, I have not had a chance to unbox it yet.
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