Ramirez 1A with 650mm scale?

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Ramirez 1A with 650mm scale?

Post by rinneby » Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:10 am

Dear friends.

This (badly taken and small) picture show a Ramirez 1A from 1988. I wonder if this is the infamous "86-model" with 650 mm scale?

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/Jon
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Re: Ramirez 1A with 650mm scale

Post by petermc61 » Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:13 am

I have not heard the story about the 'infamous '86 version'. Perhaps you could explain....

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Re: Ramirez 1A with 650mm scale

Post by rinneby » Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:17 am

petermc61 wrote:I have not heard the story about the 'infamous '86 version'. Perhaps you could explain....
In 1986 Jose Ramirez III started to build 650 mm guitars, requested by some players. These guitars where later referred to as the "86 models" - Supposedly with a 86-label inside. I've never seen this label before, thats why I ask.

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Re: Ramirez 1A with 650mm scale?

Post by petermc61 » Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:27 am

Hmmm, I used to own a Ramirez III 1a, from 1984, which had a 650mm scale length.....

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Re: Ramirez 1A with 650mm scale?

Post by rinneby » Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:33 am

petermc61 wrote:Hmmm, I used to own a Ramirez III 1a, from 1984, which had a 650mm scale length.....
Was it "good" ? :)

/Jon
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Re: Ramirez 1A with 650mm scale?

Post by petermc61 » Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:35 am

rinneby wrote:
petermc61 wrote:Hmmm, I used to own a Ramirez III 1a, from 1984, which had a 650mm scale length.....
Was it "good" ? :)

/Jon
It was OK. Sounded like a cedar Ramirez. As most here will probably gather I am more inclined towards 'spruce Hauser' guitars.

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Re: Ramirez 1A with 650mm scale?

Post by Sakura » Thu Feb 16, 2017 2:32 am

I don't think it sounds like the 664 mm scale ( with the typicall bassy sound of those Ramirez )

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Re: Ramirez 1A with 650mm scale?

Post by beanctr » Thu Feb 16, 2017 2:28 pm

I think at that time they were distributed in the USA by Gibson. R
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Re: Ramirez 1A with 650mm scale?

Post by celestemcc » Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:26 pm

Just measure nut to saddle?
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Re: Ramirez 1A with 650mm scale?

Post by jayjayrose » Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:49 am

I also have a 650mm scale Jose Ramirez III, and it from 1984. People have told me it is a good Ramirez. I have not played many others.
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