Dark resonant sounding guitar?

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eno
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Dark resonant sounding guitar?

Post by eno » Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:24 pm

As an alternative to my bright-sounding spruce Bernabe I'm looking for a darker sounding guitar, something similar to Ben Verdery guitar with resonant baroque-lute kind of sound, with price within a few $K. Can anyone recommend any luthier/model?
Paulino Bernabe 'India' 2001
Masaru Kohno No.20 1975, No.6 1967
Rokutaro Nakade A9 1969, custom 1967, A1 1962
Mitsuru Tamura No.800 1969
Takamine C136S 1976

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Re: Dark resonant sounding guitar?

Post by Michael.N. » Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:46 pm

That one is a Smallman I guess. Don't know but that seems like a heavily processed sound to my ears.
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Re: Dark resonant sounding guitar?

Post by edwardsguitar » Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:04 pm

A Dake Traphagen cedar double top. Dark and resonant, with a strong sound.

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Re: Dark resonant sounding guitar?

Post by eno » Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:27 pm

Does 660mm scale makes the sound darker and/or more resonant?

Also 11-string guitars tend to have darker and baroque-kind of sound probably because of stronger bracing and thicker tops.
Paulino Bernabe 'India' 2001
Masaru Kohno No.20 1975, No.6 1967
Rokutaro Nakade A9 1969, custom 1967, A1 1962
Mitsuru Tamura No.800 1969
Takamine C136S 1976

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Re: Dark resonant sounding guitar?

Post by Laudiesdad69 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:40 pm

Thanks for sharing the video.

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Re: Dark resonant sounding guitar?

Post by petermc61 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:51 pm

You missed Charles Mokotoff's John Dick cedar doubletop. That was US$6k though, and a bargain at that. Owning one myself I can attest to them being wonderful instruments, with an overall rich and slightly forgiving character.

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Re: Dark resonant sounding guitar?

Post by Chris Sobel » Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:03 am

eno wrote:Does 660mm scale makes the sound darker and/or more resonant?

Also 11-string guitars tend to have darker and baroque-kind of sound probably because of stronger bracing and thicker tops.
I think it definitely gives the guitar a little more power, but whether that translates to more dark or more bright I think depends on whether the guitar is bright or dark to begin with.

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Re: Dark resonant sounding guitar?

Post by zupfgeiger » Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:24 am

Think about a traditional Spanish guitar in the Torres style. Some of those guitar are deep tuned. My Fritz ober Torres/Hauser guitar had a body resonance between D and E which is extremely deep. The basses of the Ober were to die for. The trebles were nonetheless clear and significant btw.
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Andrea Tacchi, Enrique Garcia model, Spruce/BRAZ, 2016
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