Anontio Picado Modelo 60 vs Amalio Burguet 1A

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Anontio Picado Modelo 60 vs Amalio Burguet 1A

Post by PuraVida » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:34 pm

Hello to all ,
I am torn between purchasing one of these two guitars. I am looking at the Cedar top. Has anyone had any experience playing these instruments? I have played a 1996 AB 1a and it felt very comfortable; the bass and treble notes seemed to be very distinct. I have not played the AP guitars although I have I have listened on line. I would love to hear your thoughts :merci:

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Re: Anontio Picado Modelo 60 vs Amalio Burguet 1A

Post by Gary Macleod » Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:39 pm

Where do you live, are there any dealers near you ?

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Re: Anontio Picado Modelo 60 vs Amalio Burguet 1A

Post by MessyTendon » Sat Aug 26, 2017 2:41 am

Not sureabout the Burguet. I like my Picado. It's a cypress and it is kind of odd...sustain is good, of course not as lingering as a denser and rigid rosewood back and sides. But it competes well with many guitars in it's price point. I prefer the sound to the upper tier Cordoba Master and Kenny Hill guitars.

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Re: Anontio Picado Modelo 60 vs Amalio Burguet 1A

Post by rinneby » Sat Aug 26, 2017 5:37 am

I owned a Burguet 1A and it was a good guitar. Easy on the hands and sweet sound. However, you cannot go wrong with either of these guitars really.

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Re: Anontio Picado Modelo 60 vs Amalio Burguet 1A

Post by PuraVida » Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:25 am

Hello Gary,
Thank you. the closest dealer is in Miami, florida and I live in San Francisco calif. the one benefit of this particular dealer is that his shop has a 7 day return policy.

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Re: Anontio Picado Modelo 60 vs Amalio Burguet 1A

Post by madrilla » Sat Aug 26, 2017 9:20 am

I only tried Burguet 3M & Vanessa both cedar and was impressed by both. Didn't have time to try 1a but the assistant said it was the top model. He did not know about the AB or the Damian model Unico. Tbh I don't think they would sell too many, 3M is the most popular. There is a limited upgraded version of the 1a at guitarrasdeluthier which is a few hundred € cheaper than than the standard 1a, very strange. There is also the noguera with double back for extra volume but cheaper than 1a.

I have not heard Picado but read good things about them. They are similar in the fact that they are both from Valencia, both have small teams, both make for other companies.

Hope you can try out both models, that is the best way to choose.

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Post by Jacek A. Rochacki » Sat Aug 26, 2017 9:52 am

Let me please correct: Picado is NOT from Valencia, but from Catalonia - area of Barcelona. Señor Antonio Picado has his small workshop in town of Berga north west of Barcelona.
Antonio Picado, model 60, 2015, Cedar/IRW. Scale 640 mm.
Kenny Hill, model Madrid, 2002, No. 2019, Cedar/IRW. Scale 650 mm.

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Post by madrilla » Sat Aug 26, 2017 10:11 am

My bad, yes Picado is from Barcelona. I confused them with Paco Castillo.

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Post by Jacek A. Rochacki » Sat Aug 26, 2017 10:27 am

- I understand such confusion well...both brands are to be recommended, both guitars are very good in their category. The history of Paco Castillo is quite different (Family Julia Abad, their contribution to Alhambra brand and, finally, creating the Paco Castillo brand) and Señor Antonio Picado who was working for some time for Taurus in Barcelona and via them in indirect way was constructing some instruments for Jose Ramirez. Years ago I was taking under serious consideration the Paco Castillo 205 /cedar, I even took a long drive to seller/distributor to test play PC 205, but this meeting turn out to be, say, a misunderstanding, and life went in other direction. And after another couple of years I was fortunate to acquire my AP.
Antonio Picado, model 60, 2015, Cedar/IRW. Scale 640 mm.
Kenny Hill, model Madrid, 2002, No. 2019, Cedar/IRW. Scale 650 mm.

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Post by mike.janel » Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:35 pm

I had the opportunity to try both at the same store.
Could not really compare apples to apples as it was used v.s. new.
The used AP was strung with much lower tension old strings and obviously sounded duller (but still good).
The AB 1A was brilient but above my price range, so I ended up with AB 3M.
Had I had the experience I have now, I would make a different choice.

With any of these you can expect good playability and volume balance.
You get strong bass and bright, assertive highs to match, for sure.
The difference would be by points in the mid-range tone-balance.
Listen and check carefully to what degree you get unclear notes and sudden tone change between notes around 3ed string.
The type of string (e.g. carbon 3ed) would affect that a lot.

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Re: Anontio Picado Modelo 60 vs Amalio Burguet 1A

Post by tmblweed1 » Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:04 am

Jacek A. Rochacki wrote:
Sat Aug 26, 2017 9:52 am
Let me please correct: Picado is NOT from Valencia, but from Catalonia - area of Barcelona. Señor Antonio Picado has his small workshop in town of Berga north west of Barcelona.
Berga I think
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Re: Anontio Picado Modelo 60 vs Amalio Burguet 1A

Post by Jacek A. Rochacki » Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:45 am

- yes, Berga, this is what I wrote. Full address is at the Picado web pages.
Antonio Picado, model 60, 2015, Cedar/IRW. Scale 640 mm.
Kenny Hill, model Madrid, 2002, No. 2019, Cedar/IRW. Scale 650 mm.

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Re: Anontio Picado Modelo 60 vs Amalio Burguet 1A

Post by tmblweed1 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:27 am

Sorry, didn't see that
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