47mm nut

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47mm nut

Post by bobbyboy » Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:37 pm

Hi, opinions on buying a classical guitar with a 47mm nut.
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Re: 47mm nut

Post by georgemarousi » Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:48 pm

would maybe suggest for small/ thin fingers. If not shorter scale, the 47mm would make the space between strings too close. If you can try it it would be a very good idea

I would prefer something close to the "standard" 52mm..
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Re: 47mm nut

Post by bear » Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:29 pm

bobbyboy wrote:
Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:37 pm
Hi, opinions on buying a classical guitar with a 47mm nut.
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Sounds more like a folk guitar.
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Re: 47mm nut

Post by soltirefa » Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:43 pm

I would never go less than 50mm.

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Re: 47mm nut

Post by Laudiesdad69 » Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:20 am

I had a Cordoba c9 crossover that had a 47 or 48mm nut and I hated it. I think those are meant for guys that primarily play steel string. Too skinny for me. The neck felt like an electric guitar neck and the string spacing was about the same too.

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Re: 47mm nut

Post by Tomzooki » Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:51 pm

Bad idea, unless you have tiny hands
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Re: 47mm nut

Post by Laudiesdad69 » Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:06 am

Tomzooki wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:51 pm
Bad idea, unless you have tiny hands
President Trump called and says he needs the 47mm nut...

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Re: 47mm nut

Post by bear » Sat Sep 09, 2017 12:03 pm

Laudiesdad69 wrote:
Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:06 am
Tomzooki wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:51 pm
Bad idea, unless you have tiny hands
President Trump called and says he needs the 47mm nut...
Not goin there, not gonna doit, wouldn't be prudent.
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Re: 47mm nut

Post by zavaletas » Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:48 pm

I agree with everyone that it is a bad idea unless you have tiny hands, and would add it would be very hard to resell.

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Re: 47mm nut

Post by bear » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:49 pm

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2013 Jeff Medlin '37 Hauser 640mm sp
2006 Michele Della Giustina Concert 10 string 650mm ce
2005 Jose Ramirez 4E 650mm ce
2005 Manuel Rodriguez Model C3F 650mm sp
2003 Manuel Rodriguez Model D 650mm ce

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Re: 47mm nut

Post by lux » Fri Sep 29, 2017 1:22 am

I have a Gianinni with a 50mm nut and am really restricted to using the highest tension string sets out there to play without excess noise. Nylon strings have a much, much higher orbit of oscillation than steel strings (especially the 3rd and 4th strings). So with a narrow string spread -- and this really, is the problem more than just the nut width -- you'll find it much more difficult to fret notes cleanly and without back-of-the-fingernail buzz from an adjacent vibrating string adding unwanted noise. It's also much easier to accidentally clip a higher string with the edge of the fingernail on your right hand with a narrow string spread. An extra .1mm between strings becomes meaningful when playing in cramped conditions.

I would be leery of any nylon-string guitar with a standard 650mm scale length and a nut width less 51mm. 51mm IS the small-hands neck width. If you need to go narrower, a 7/8 or 3/4 guitar with a shorter scale length probably needs to be part of the design solution. A lot of steel string players play 47-48mm necks on nylon-string crossovers with a flat pick...that's a different issue.

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Re: 47mm nut

Post by Chauncey Calvin » Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:09 pm

I have to agree with everyone that a 47mm nut is way to small too small for a classical unless you have very small hands. For me, I prefer a 51mm or 52mm. Smaller and it's hard to get my fingers crammed onto the same fret. Larger and stretches across the fretboard become difficult. However, I prefer a 640 scale, though a 650 scale will also works for me.

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