Paulino Bernabe (JR)Torres 2012. Splendid instrument

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Paulino Bernabe (JR)Torres 2012. Splendid instrument

Post by Bazza67 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:58 pm

I'm curious If anyone have good experience with a
Bernabe Torres, made by PB jr?

I hear different story's about the quality of the luthery of PB-jr, But after trying lots of instruments, made by famous and not-so-famous luthiers, I'm very satisfied with
this 1864 Torres copy, made by Paulino. Really outstanding.

The sound is very rich, deep basses, singing trebles and very good mid's.
The best is that It's very "alive" in your hands and it has a real character, an old voice.
It took a while till the real quality came out, but it did.
So now it's a keeper.

Anyone else with good or bad examples of JR's Torres copy' s?

Best Regards,

Bas
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"Paulino Bernabé Torres 2012- Enzo Guido 2015"

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Re: Paulino Bernabe (JR)Torres 2012. Splendid instrument

Post by Mr.Rain » Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:41 pm

Hi,

i have heard some videos of this guitar,sounds really nice, seems like a very nice historic replica.

I was wondering how does it compares on size with the FE17?
I tried getting the info online but couldn't find any.

I know this guitar is based on a 1864 torres Paulino Bernabe has in his collection(same year as the fe-17/fe18)

Could you tell us the dimensions of the top (the width in the lower and upper bout) and the body tickness (minmax)?

Thanks.

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Re: Paulino Bernabe (JR)Torres 2012. Splendid instrument

Post by Bazza67 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:32 pm

Hello,

The body thickness is around 10cm
And the lower bout width is 36 and the upper 27 cm
The scale length is 645

Hope that this is helpful


Bas
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Re: Paulino Bernabe (JR)Torres 2012. Splendid instrument

Post by zavaletas » Sat Sep 23, 2017 5:07 am

I have known the Bernabe family since 1997, and can tell you that while the sons of famous fathers often are not the makers their father's were, Paulino's son is an exception. He worked with his father, side by side on the same bench for over 25 years. The sound of their guitars are to my trained ear impossible to distinguish. Like his father, Paulino is a superb craftsman, who is constantly looking to make improvements. While I expect readers to discount my opinion, I am proud to be his US distributor. James, Zavaleta's La Casa de Guitarras
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Re: Paulino Bernabe (JR)Torres 2012. Splendid instrument

Post by Mr.Rain » Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:44 am

Hi Bas,

thanks, I tought it was smaller (specially after seeing Paulino holding the guitar)
it seems quite big compared to the fe-17

http://www.antoniodetorres.es/index.php ... 6&Itemid=2

is even bigger than "la suprema":
http://www.antoniodetorres.es/index.php ... 8&Itemid=2

:mrgreen:
Bazza67 wrote:
Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:32 pm
Hello,

The body thickness is around 10cm
And the lower bout width is 36 and the upper 27 cm
The scale length is 645

Hope that this is helpful


Bas

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Re: Paulino Bernabe (JR)Torres 2012. Splendid instrument

Post by Bazza67 » Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:02 pm

Well, I'm glad it's not too small
At least for my taste
I have the Birdseye maple version, But i would like to have the Rosewood version too, but there not so often available, second hand.

It has a seriously deep bass and the trebles are not super thick, but sweet and rounded.
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Re: Paulino Bernabe (JR)Torres 2012. Splendid instrument

Post by Mr.Rain » Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:18 am

Bazza67 wrote:
Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:02 pm
Well, I'm glad it's not too small
At least for my taste
I have the Birdseye maple version, But i would like to have the Rosewood version too, but there not so often available, second hand.

It has a seriously deep bass and the trebles are not super thick, but sweet and rounded.
Interesting in this video Paulino shows both maple and rosewood, he is saying they are 2 different torres, the rosewood is his torres from his collection, the maple is based in a german collectors one ( or at leas i understood that from the video):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqC-hdMTPbE

He also says one is bigger than the other (i think he says the rosewood is bigger than the maple one...)

Actually i was more into the idea of a small torres like fe-17 or similar so in this case for me the smaller the better :D

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Re: Paulino Bernabe (JR)Torres 2012. Splendid instrument

Post by zavaletas » Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:12 pm

Paulino's 1864 Torres may be seen here: http://www.paulinobernabe.com/EN/Detal ... DC=18&N=4

His Model Torres takes its shape from the 1864 Torres, but has a more elaborate rosette. The original has a three piece back of rosewood, his uses a two piece back. Although the style of this copy is generally true to the original, it isn't stuck entirely in the 19th century, and so incorporates some nice touches such as Bernabe's new bridge that uses string beads to maintain optimal string angle over the saddle. He offers this guitar in birdeye maple, and rosewood (at least up to January 2, 2017) when all rosewoods were listed on CITES. He is currently I believe exploring other woods that could substitute for rosewoods-- and so avoid paperwork and delays CITES permits entail.

Here's a recording of one we recently sold.

https://youtu.be/v8tCjsTPKds
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Re: Paulino Bernabe (JR)Torres 2012. Splendid instrument

Post by Michael.N. » Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:29 pm

Bazza67 wrote:
Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:32 pm
Hello,

The body thickness is around 10cm
And the lower bout width is 36 and the upper 27 cm
The scale length is 645

Hope that this is helpful


Bas
That is almost certainly based on the largest body plantilla that Torres ever used. You get variations of a few mm's here and there but that's within the method of building. The rest of his instruments went down in sizes until you reach the small romantic guitar sized Torres. That small size obviously sounds radically different.
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