Buy or avoid this guitar

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Buy or avoid this guitar

Post by Michael L » Wed Oct 18, 2017 7:31 am

I am looking for a guitar and saw an advert with an attractive proposition but it has some marks said to be from finger nails. I am wondering if it is viable. The price reflects the damage unless it threatens the integrity of the instrument.
The photograph is poor and I have asked for better resolution images.
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Re: Buy or avoid this guitar

Post by Michael L » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:28 am

According to the seller, the guitar was sent back to the manufacturer, who said the marks were the result of fingernails. The seller thinks his neighbour's children could be culpable. The top board is solid cedar, as are the sides and back.

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Re: Buy or avoid this guitar

Post by bear » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:41 am

If it's just cosmetic and you can't get better for less then why not? I'd want to see if those are just surface scratches before parting with any dollars. If, you're having any second thoughts, walk away.
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Re: Buy or avoid this guitar

Post by Michael.N. » Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:20 am

Looks more like a nail groove than a crack but it's impossible to be sure without seeing the guitar in person.
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Re: Buy or avoid this guitar

Post by OldPotter » Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:34 am

Solid Cedar back and sides, might be Cypress? Indicating a Flamenco model? The action looks a little high for that, but its very hard to be sure.

If the "cracks" near the purfling are plectrum marks or music stand marks, then its just cosmetic. I would want to see the guitar before putting in a bid.
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Re: Buy or avoid this guitar

Post by manhhung » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:09 am

Difficult to tell from photo. It is unusual for nail mark to go right to the edge. I would want to see the guitar..and with UV light.

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Re: Buy or avoid this guitar

Post by Michael L » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:45 am

manhhung wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:09 am
Difficult to tell from photo. It is unusual for nail mark to go right to the edge. I would want to see the guitar..and with UV light.
That's interesting. What would UV lighting reveal?

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Re: Buy or avoid this guitar

Post by Michael L » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:59 am

OldPotter wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:34 am
Solid Cedar back and sides, might be Cypress? Indicating a Flamenco model? The action looks a little high for that, but its very hard to be sure.

If the "cracks" near the purfling are plectrum marks or music stand marks, then its just cosmetic. I would want to see the guitar before putting in a bid.
Sorry - my mistake, the back and sides are solid mahogany. The top is solid cedar.

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Re: Buy or avoid this guitar

Post by dta721 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:50 pm

Michael L wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:28 am
According to the seller, the guitar was sent back to the manufacturer, who said the marks were the result of fingernails. The seller thinks his neighbour's children could be culpable. The top board is solid cedar, as are the sides and back.
Can you ask the seller that you can bring this guitar to a local luthier for an estimate to repair? In the process, it will be confirmed whether the crack is cosmetic, or more than that? It would be best if the luthier can offer a free estimate, or a minimum cost that you may offer to pay for before committing to buying it. That way you know what you are getting, at least with a second opinion, and not from the seller's!

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Re: Buy or avoid this guitar

Post by dta721 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:02 pm

Michael L wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:45 am
manhhung wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:09 am
Difficult to tell from photo. It is unusual for nail mark to go right to the edge. I would want to see the guitar..and with UV light.
That's interesting. What would UV lighting reveal?
I think manhhung watched too many CSI episodes, as UV light reveals ... body fluids, in addition to finger prints! :)

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Re: Buy or avoid this guitar

Post by Michael L » Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:54 pm

I would be happy to see the correspondence with the manufacturer.

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Re: Buy or avoid this guitar

Post by beanctr » Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:58 pm

How much money we talking about? $100? $5,000? R
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Re: Buy or avoid this guitar

Post by Michael L » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:52 pm

beanctr wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:58 pm
How much money we talking about? $100? $5,000? R
Under £200 for a guitar normally costing >£500

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Re: Buy or avoid this guitar

Post by zavaletas » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:58 pm

The guitar does not have any cypress-- but certainly is a factory product. Do you now what this guitar would sell for new... with cosmetic issues or even a repair, the value is certainly around half of new.
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Re: Buy or avoid this guitar

Post by Michael L » Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:06 pm

zavaletas wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:58 pm
The guitar does not have any cypress-- but certainly is a factory product. Do you now what this guitar would sell for new... with cosmetic issues or even a repair, the value is certainly around half of new.

Not sure what this means (in bold). So not such a bargain, even if the marks turn out to be trivial.

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