Unknown, possibly Russian Guitar

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Unknown, possibly Russian Guitar

Post by Laudiesdad69 » Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:20 am

Hi, this guitar belongs to a friend. The shop that she got it from says that it’s Russian. Checkout the wood on the bridge, it looks like the same stuff they use on rifle stocks.

Does anybody know what the back and sides are? Can anybody read the label.
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Re: Unknown, possibly Russian Guitar

Post by guitarrista » Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:11 am

I am not Russian but I can read it -) The guitar was made by someone called D. Tikhonov in June of ...9 year (can't read what it is - 1989?). However the guitar also has a label that it was made in a factory for musical instruments situated in "Leningrad" - what is now Saint-Petersburg, in Russia. So probably not strictly a luthier guitar in the conventional sense of that phrase.
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Re: Unknown, possibly Russian Guitar

Post by Philosopherguy » Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:24 am

Might want to ask the other member on here Andrei Krylov. He is a guitarist from Russia. He may know some details about the company or guitar. He usually posts in the guitar posture area of the forum if you look around there.

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Re: Unknown, possibly Russian Guitar

Post by Laudiesdad69 » Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:02 pm

Thanks guys. I did think of Andrei and was hoping he might see this post. Martin, I will check for him where you suggest.

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Re: Unknown, possibly Russian Guitar

Post by Marshall Dixon » Thu Nov 02, 2017 4:16 pm

Laudiesdad69 wrote:
Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:20 am
Hi, this guitar belongs to a friend. The shop that she got it from says that it’s Russian. Checkout the wood on the bridge, it looks like the same stuff they use on rifle stocks.

Does anybody know what the back and sides are? Can anybody read the label.
I can't tell from the pics; is the rosette a mosaic or a decal?

How did it sound? Good, bad or indifferent?

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Re: Unknown, possibly Russian Guitar

Post by PavelNovo » Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:54 pm

This is definitely a Soviet era guitar made in Saint Petersburg at Lunacharski factory (now defunct, rebranded etc.). These guitars were considered to be of the better quality among USSR made instruments. And judging by the looks this is one of their higher end guitars. Sorry I cannot comment on the wood species.

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Re: Unknown, possibly Russian Guitar

Post by guitarrista » Thu Nov 02, 2017 6:09 pm

Laudiesdad69 wrote:
Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:20 am
Does anybody know what the back and sides are?
I am not a luthier, but my first thought was that it looks like rosewood, maybe even Brazilian rosewood.
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Re: Unknown, possibly Russian Guitar

Post by Laudiesdad69 » Thu Nov 02, 2017 6:53 pm

guitarrista wrote:
Thu Nov 02, 2017 6:09 pm
Laudiesdad69 wrote:
Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:20 am
Does anybody know what the back and sides are?
I am not a luthier, but my first thought was that it looks like rosewood, maybe even Brazilian rosewood.
Well, Brazilian might be the reason why they paid so much. I think the owner said that she paid $1000 dollars, there about. It actually sounds very nice. The original tuners broke and they weren't standard spacing, from what I understand. That is why they put on the single tuners that it has on it now. It is in perfect condition. No scratches, dents, or dings.

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Re: Unknown, possibly Russian Guitar

Post by Laudiesdad69 » Thu Nov 02, 2017 6:54 pm

Marshall Dixon wrote:
Thu Nov 02, 2017 4:16 pm
Laudiesdad69 wrote:
Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:20 am
Hi, this guitar belongs to a friend. The shop that she got it from says that it’s Russian. Checkout the wood on the bridge, it looks like the same stuff they use on rifle stocks.

Does anybody know what the back and sides are? Can anybody read the label.
I can't tell from the pics; is the rosette a mosaic or a decal?

How did it sound? Good, bad or indifferent?
Sounds great. The rosette doesn't appear to be a decal.

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Re: Unknown, possibly Russian Guitar

Post by AndreiKrylov » Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:12 pm

Laudiesdad69 wrote:
Thu Nov 02, 2017 6:54 pm
Marshall Dixon wrote:
Thu Nov 02, 2017 4:16 pm
Laudiesdad69 wrote:
Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:20 am
Hi, this guitar belongs to a friend. The shop that she got it from says that it’s Russian. Checkout the wood on the bridge, it looks like the same stuff they use on rifle stocks.

Does anybody know what the back and sides are? Can anybody read the label.
I can't tell from the pics; is the rosette a mosaic or a decal?

How did it sound? Good, bad or indifferent?

Sounds great. The rosette doesn't appear to be a decal.
Please made pictures with factory text larger I can't read it...
If it is from Leningrad factory - then I probably could tell you more info.
:)
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Re: Unknown, possibly Russian Guitar

Post by guitarrista » Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:20 pm

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Re: Unknown, possibly Russian Guitar

Post by Laudiesdad69 » Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:40 pm

AndreiKrylov wrote:
Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:12 pm
Laudiesdad69 wrote:
Thu Nov 02, 2017 6:54 pm
Marshall Dixon wrote:
Thu Nov 02, 2017 4:16 pm


I can't tell from the pics; is the rosette a mosaic or a decal?

How did it sound? Good, bad or indifferent?

Sounds great. The rosette doesn't appear to be a decal.
Please made pictures with factory text larger I can't read it...
If it is from Leningrad factory - then I probably could tell you more info.
:)
Thanks Andrei, I will try to get better pictures of the label next time I see the owner. It will probably be in a week or two.

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Re: Unknown, possibly Russian Guitar

Post by AndreiKrylov » Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:16 pm

Thanks!
Yes it is guitar from St. Petersburg.
I am not sure that it is rosewood - usually guitar made on a factory even by the luthiers were made from laminated back and sides.
I'll ask some luthiers from there.
I'd better speak by music...Please listen it on Spotify, Apple Music, Deezer, etc. Thanks!

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Re: Unknown, possibly Russian Guitar

Post by guitarrista » Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:57 pm

AndreiKrylov wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:16 pm

I am not sure that it is rosewood - usually guitar made on a factory even by the luthiers were made from laminated back and sides.
Yes, that's why I hesitated.. but it sure looks like (brazilian) rosewood to me.
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Re: Unknown, possibly Russian Guitar

Post by eno » Fri Nov 03, 2017 6:11 pm

Factory guitars made in USSR were typically of poor tonal quality and playability. I remember trying a lot of them some 30-40yrs ago in USSR and never found any good ones. At music school we typically used Kremonas and Eastern Germany made guitars (I forgot the brand), those were available in the stores and were usually of better quality than USSR-made. There were some good luthiers though in USSR, I had one of luthier made guitars which was ok.
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