That's one I'm definitely looking to try out, although my local GC doesn't have one currently. I suppose I should really just trust my ear and feel. I tried the LC200s at a GC today as well as a C7 and honestly felt like the 200s was better, at least that particular one and that particular C7. The C9 I played was definitely a step above though, really a gorgeous instrument for the price.
Definitely every 200s I’ve tried has been much better than the C5, even like it more than a C7.Laudiesdad69 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:45 pmI have a Córdoba C9 and a Lucero LC200S.
Deifinately, the Lucero is the better made and finished guitar. The C9 has a really good tone but it came with a higher action, and fret sprout. Also, the bridge was put on in the wrong place, and was replaced with another one, which had fret sprout, that was filed down as a warranty repair.
The Lucero LC200S came with no sprout, even frets with decent polish, an action of 3.5/3.2mm. Cedar top that is solid, lam back and sides, 52mm nut, good finish and dark rosewood fingerboard. I actually bought to, and gave one as a gift to my son. The action was the same. They really are the most bang for the buck, though. If you would have bought one three months ago, you could have got them for $199.00. I put Ramirez med tension with carbon G on them, and the tone improved, and it sounded just as good as albeit not as breathy, and more focused, not quite as warm though. Also, if you use Hard tension strings, or as Lucero says “heavy gauge” strings, it voids the warranty.
I had a C5. It wasn’t very good. I wouldn’t waste my money.
The Kremona was nice, good tone, good playability. Crummy gig bag. I almost bought one from my friend who is a Kremona dealer. I didn’t pull the trigger on the fiesta in time, he sold it the nest day.
If I had 800 bucks to spend, I think I would go with a Yamaha GC like Ramon suggests. Or if you could come up with a couple hundred extra, maybe a GC22. There are quite a few Takamine Hirades H5 on Reverb some as low as 600 used. That’s what I am saving up for. I talked to my guy at sweet water, and those guitars are quite expensive new.
Thank you very much for your insight. Funny how my post is changing form c5 vs lucero to this haha but, after reading everybody's suggestions I think it's wise to just invest right now. Realistically, I can spend about 1200 right now although not much more than that, so I think I'll just stretch the budget and invest in a nicer one.Jim Davidson wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:37 pmI work at a store that carries both, and I can definitely say that if you're a classical guitar major you need to save a few hundred more dollars. I would aim for a budget of around $900 to get an instrument that offers a worthwhile improvement over what you currently have.
Your instrument and technique are connected: A cheap guitar will not give you something even if you play it great. A better guitar will reward better playing, which you need to be doing more of. Don't go cheap. You're going to spend hundreds, if not thousands of hours playing it.
Look for a used Esteve or Kenny Hill New World guitar.
As for your question about laminates: Some of the truly great builders like Daniel Freidrich and Greg Smallman use double or even triple backs and sides. It simply makes for more stiff back and sides, concentrating vibrations into the top. It's used as a design feature, rather than strictly as a way to save money.
Big name manufacturers use laminated back and sides to cut costs, but you shouldn't underestimate a laminate guitar. Some of them sound fantastic. The only way to tell is to play the actual guitar you're considering, and I would discourage ordering online because of that.
Save your money, and play a LOT of guitars.