Adalid bracing Question

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Adalid bracing Question

Post by Ceder151 » Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:34 am

Does anyone here own an Adalid model, not the new 1a? If so, is it fan braced or lattice. Savage Guitars only states that it is carbon fibre reinforced, which makes me think it may be lattice. If you own one, what is your opinion of it in sound and fit and finish? Actually, I would like any opinions regarding the Adalid range of guitars. Are they "true-blue" luthier build quality? Would a model 1 be on par with a Teodoro Perez Madrid? How would you rate it compared to a Cordoba Master Series?

Thanks for any insight on them.
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Re: Adalid bracing Question

Post by Nick Clow » Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:19 am

I have a Manuel Adalid 12 (cedar) and it's fan-braced (I believe). I think all Esteve and Manuel Adalid models are fan-braced, including the ones that incorporate carbon fibre (which I think are the 9 and 1A?) That would certainly makes sense anyway because they are Spanish guitars with a traditional leaning and sound.

Frankly, the carbon-fibre braced models don't really make sense to me. Why, if you are after a traditional-type Spanish guitar, would you buy something with such high-tech materials in it? It's a contradiction and wouldn't be to my taste. However, each to their own! Maybe I am just narrow-minded as I have seen and heard a 1A played at close hand and it had a full sound and was noticeably powerful/loud.

My 12 has a warm, full sound. I like it very much. It's not the slickest, easiest thing to play. As with many Spanish guitars of its kind, you have to show it who's boss (or try to).

I would personally prefer my guitar to any Cordoba. I don't really have experience of luthier models so can't really comment on your final questions.
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Post by Ramon Amira » Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:23 pm

I have heard one Adalid carbon fiber braced guitar, and it sounded awful. Yet his non carbon braced guitars sound fine.

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Re: Adalid bracing Question

Post by HNLim » Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:38 pm

Mine is traditional fan bracing.
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Re: Adalid bracing Question

Post by Ceder151 » Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:56 pm

HNLim,

Is it wood fan bracing or carbon fiber?
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Re: Adalid bracing Question

Post by HNLim » Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:03 pm

I think it's wood.
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Re: Adalid bracing Question

Post by Paul Janssen » Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:49 pm

Why don't you send Savage guitars an email and ask them directly what sort of bracing the guitar has? I've not dealt with Savage guitars myself, but I get the impression having looked at a number of their demo videos that they have a lot of integrity and will answer your questions openly and honestly.

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Re: Adalid bracing Question

Post by HNLim » Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:34 pm

If you love plenty of overtones, the Adalid is for you.
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Re: Adalid bracing Question

Post by Carlos » Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:11 pm

hi there. i own a hopf/adalid Artista Membrana, which i bought directy in the esteve/adalid workshop in Valencia (where it is produced) it's lattice braced with carbon fiber. very powerful and - i would say - percussive sound,with a nice spanish taste. only minus are lack of nuances due to strong sound dynamics (but even with that minus, please note Florian Larousse nevertheless won the GFA with this guitar). overall very good quality to price ratio

in the workshop i could also test the Torres model and the Lacotte. i was really amazed by the special sound of the Lacotte, you really feel like travelling two centuries back

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Re: Adalid bracing Question

Post by zavaletas » Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:01 am

Manuel Adalid makes uses fan bracing even in his double top (nomex) guitars. On option for many models is to have carbon reinforcement in the fan bracing. I tried them, and preferred the tradition bracing.
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Re: Adalid bracing Question

Post by Torres609 » Fri Mar 10, 2017 3:56 pm

I also have an Adalid Model 12 and it is definitely fan braced with no carbon fibre - just good old wood. The guitar sounds amazing - very strong bass with clear, transparent trebles.

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