Takamine C132S plug

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Re: Takamine C132S plug

Post by Tom Wimsatt » Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:55 pm

souldier wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:44 pm
Tom Wimsatt wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:54 pm
I realize this thread is a bit old, but here goes. I have a C132S, that was made in 1989. This model has a plastic bridge, saddle and nut. I'm thinking of converting to ebony and bone. I recently discovered the new c132 models use these materials.

Anyone out there ever tried this?
I have a 1978 Takamine C132 (Made on Feb 25 to be exact) with the Ramirez headstock and 660 scale and all. I bought it used and it already had a bone nut and saddle which appears to be original. I'm not sure if they later switched to plastic, or if you happen to have one that was switched with a plastic saddle later by a previous owner. In any case, switching from cheap plastic to bone should yield a noticeable improvement in sound quality. You'll notice greater depth, warmth and fullness to the sound.
Thanks for the quick response. This is getting interesting. After reading your response, I did a quick search for used C132 models for sale and discovered some variations in design (of the bridge) I was not aware of.

I bought the guitar new so it has not been modified. I recently restarted playing after ~ 25 year absence. I've noticed dents/compression around the strings at the bridge and saddle, and I've recently learned of how to fix this and the potential improvements sound-wise.

I'm curious as to why they temporarily modified the design (to plastic parts) but it looks like that's what happened. Lucky me. Mine was made in February also by the way (SN 8902...).

What do you mean by Ramirez headstock? Also, I guess I'll check my guitar because I thought my scale was 650 mm. :-o
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Re: Takamine C132S plug

Post by soltirefa » Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:23 pm

Not bad at all for a cheap guitar, huh?

https://youtu.be/1CciEz6ryW4

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Re: Takamine C132S plug

Post by Tom Wimsatt » Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:33 pm

soltirefa wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:23 pm
Not bad at all for a cheap guitar, huh?

https://youtu.be/1CciEz6ryW4
Very enjoyable. Thanks for posting.
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Re: Takamine C132S plug

Post by fraim » Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:58 pm

very nicely played! thanks!!

i have a c128 that was my 1st guitar in the early '80s. still in amazing condition. i can make it sound good, my teacher makes it sound great.

i have 2 other guitars, so if someone wants to make an offer....just saying ;)

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Re: Takamine C132S plug

Post by Jeffrey Armbruster » Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:17 pm

soltirefa inspired me to haul out my C132s and play it more extensively. It really is a great guitar. The 'card' pasted inside the body just states the model, not the year. Although I seem to remember it being a 90's model---hmmm. Any way to determine this? It also has plastic saddle and nut--I think.... Is it true that changing out to bone will improve the tone? I did have a local luthier shave the saddle to lower the action and now it plays like a dream.

edit: never mind, I found the serial number. It's 8308 so, 1983, August. It's a tank, in really good shape. All that shellac...
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Re: Takamine C132S plug

Post by SteveL123 » Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:27 pm

I have a 1977 C132S and it has solid Indian Rosewood back and sides, not laminated. Bone nut and saddle, not plastic. What year did Takemine start to cut back on materials in the C132S? Can you folks with a C132S measure the fret height. Mine is 1.1 mm. I am curious if your's is the same or different.

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Re: Takamine C132S plug

Post by Jeffrey Armbruster » Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:44 pm

I meant shellac! I don't know the materials on the back and side of mine but it looks like some dark solid wood.

edit: Takemine says Rosewood. "Modeled after original drawings of Torres"."Traditional ladder bracing".
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Re: Takamine C132S plug

Post by Tom Wimsatt » Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:05 am

1989 c132s fret height ~ 1.0 mm
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Re: Takamine C132S plug

Post by MessyTendon » Sun Dec 10, 2017 8:39 am

It's good enough for Christopher Parkening when he's not playing his Ramirez.

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Re: Takamine C132S plug

Post by souldier » Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:31 pm

soltirefa wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:23 pm
Not bad at all for a cheap guitar, huh?

https://youtu.be/1CciEz6ryW4
This is actually the exact guitar I now own. I bought it directly from Tavi.

Tom Wimsatt, if you look at the guitar in this video, you'll notice the Ramirez headstock copy that I was referring to.
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Re: Takamine C132S plug

Post by souldier » Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:34 pm

SteveL123 wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:27 pm
I have a 1977 C132S and it has solid Indian Rosewood back and sides, not laminated. Bone nut and saddle, not plastic. What year did Takemine start to cut back on materials in the C132S? Can you folks with a C132S measure the fret height. Mine is 1.1 mm. I am curious if your's is the same or different.
That's quite surprising if you have solid IRW. Have you looked inside the guitar to see if the grain is identical on the outside of the guitar? Mine is a laminate or double plate, though in the end all I really care about is the sound and playability.
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Re: Takamine C132S plug

Post by SteveL123 » Sun Dec 10, 2017 3:40 pm

souldier wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:34 pm
SteveL123 wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:27 pm
I have a 1977 C132S and it has solid Indian Rosewood back and sides, not laminated. Bone nut and saddle, not plastic. What year did Takemine start to cut back on materials in the C132S? Can you folks with a C132S measure the fret height. Mine is 1.1 mm. I am curious if your's is the same or different.
That's quite surprising if you have solid IRW. Have you looked inside the guitar to see if the grain is identical on the outside of the guitar? Mine is a laminate or double plate, though in the end all I really care about is the sound and playability.
Of course I looked inside the guitar to check if the grains matched. How else other than removing the back looking for glue joints? What kind of wood is your's laminated with on the inside?

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Re: Takamine C132S plug

Post by SteveL123 » Sun Dec 10, 2017 3:41 pm

Tom Wimsatt wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:05 am
1989 c132s fret height ~ 1.0 mm
Thanks for taking the measurements. Anyone else?

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Re: Takamine C132S plug

Post by SteveL123 » Sun Dec 10, 2017 3:45 pm

Jeffrey Armbruster wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:17 pm
soltirefa inspired me to haul out my C132s and play it more extensively. It really is a great guitar. The 'card' pasted inside the body just states the model, not the year. Although I seem to remember it being a 90's model---hmmm. Any way to determine this? It also has plastic saddle and nut--I think.... Is it true that changing out to bone will improve the tone? I did have a local luthier shave the saddle to lower the action and now it plays like a dream.

edit: never mind, I found the serial number. It's 8308 so, 1983, August. It's a tank, in really good shape. All that shellac...
Shellac is the ingredient in French polish. I don't think a guitar with the price point of the C132S is French polished. It's probably sprayed on Lacquer.

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Re: Takamine C132S plug

Post by SteveL123 » Sun Dec 10, 2017 3:51 pm

Tom Wimsatt wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:54 pm
I realize this thread is a bit old, but here goes. I have a C132S, that was made in 1989. This model has a plastic bridge, saddle and nut. I'm thinking of converting to ebony and bone. I recently discovered the new c132 models use these materials.

Anyone out there ever tried this?
Are you sure the bridge is plastic also? The bridge is the biggest piece of the three and is glued onto the top.

An easy test if the nut or saddle is plastic or not is to clamp a small sewing needle in a Vise-grip, heat it red hot on a gas stove and quickly shove it in the saddle or nut in an area that won't go near the wood. If it's plastic, it will melt and puncture into the plastic. If it's bone, nothing will happen to it.

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