Sakazo Nakade and signature

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Re: Sakazo Nakade and signature

Postby dandan » Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:50 pm

I have recently figured out Sakazo Nakade's numbering system. In the early 60s he used a system of B1, B2, B3, etc. I've no idea what the B stood for. His brother Rokutaro used a similar system with A as a prefix. I've seen A3, A5, A7, A9 and A12. In each of the systems the number relates to the price in yen, eg. A5 was 50,000¥. While Rokutaro kept his system until his untimely death in 1972, Sakazo changed his system in the late 60s. Initially he just used letters, eg. A, B, C, D, E. About 1969 he started to use numbers as well, again to reflect the price of each model, like so:
400 C
500 D
600 E
800 SF (not sure what the S is for)
1000 G
I've also seen 1200 S and 1500 S, which don't fit into this system, so I can only guess the S stands for special, maybe special order or special edition, I'm not sure. I do know the models up to 600 E were Indian rosewood 800 SF and above were Brazilian. He used this system from 1969 until at least 1974, when I guess he put his prices up. I'm not sure about the late 70s, but in the 80s he used only numbers, 2000, 3000, 5000 and 8000, each again reflecting the price of each model.
I might be the only one who finds any of this interesting, but thought I'd share anyway!
1969 Rokutaro Nakade A9
1966 Sakazo Nakade model D
1977 Aria AG80

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Re: Sakazo Nakade and signature

Postby rinneby » Fri Apr 14, 2017 3:24 pm

dandan wrote:I have recently figured out Sakazo Nakade's numbering system. In the early 60s he used a system of B1, B2, B3, etc. I've no idea what the B stood for. His brother Rokutaro used a similar system with A as a prefix. I've seen A3, A5, A7, A9 and A12. In each of the systems the number relates to the price in yen, eg. A5 was 50,000¥. While Rokutaro kept his system until his untimely death in 1972, Sakazo changed his system in the late 60s. Initially he just used letters, eg. A, B, C, D, E. About 1969 he started to use numbers as well, again to reflect the price of each model, like so:
400 C
500 D
600 E
800 SF (not sure what the S is for)
1000 G
I've also seen 1200 S and 1500 S, which don't fit into this system, so I can only guess the S stands for special, maybe special order or special edition, I'm not sure. I do know the models up to 600 E were Indian rosewood 800 SF and above were Brazilian. He used this system from 1969 until at least 1974, when I guess he put his prices up. I'm not sure about the late 70s, but in the 80s he used only numbers, 2000, 3000, 5000 and 8000, each again reflecting the price of each model.
I might be the only one who finds any of this interesting, but thought I'd share anyway!

You know there is at least one more ;) I'm looking forward to hear your thoughts on your latest find. A 600 E wasn't it?

/Jon
1965 - Masaru Kono No.5
1972 - Yamaha GC-3D
1973 - Ryoji Matsuoka No.80
1978 - Masaru Matano Clase 600

You are the instrument, not the guitar

dandan
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Re: Sakazo Nakade and signature

Postby dandan » Fri Apr 14, 2017 3:31 pm

It was indeed! By my reckoning the highest model with Indian rosewood. One model above the model "D" I have now. If they're too similar I may have to sell one but I'll worry about that if and when it happens. It'll have to be one hell of a guitar for me to like it more than my model D!
1969 Rokutaro Nakade A9
1966 Sakazo Nakade model D
1977 Aria AG80

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Sakazo Nakade 1971 model 1200Y

Postby bullpuppy » Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:05 pm

I'm waiting the arrival of a 1971 model 1200Y. I was wondering if anyone has had a 1200 model from 1971. I found a reference to with a 1200D which said it was entirely french polished which would be unusual.


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