I was under the impression that spruce is "the standard". Plenty of cedar about but I think spruce is well ahead. Cedar is much cheaper from a manufacturing perspective especially where marketing drives the idea that narrow growth rings are of major significance.robert e wrote:It's interesting how rapidly cedar became the standard and most popular material for classical guitar tops. ...
Hi Jack.....thanks for the heads up; never heard of this maker......I'll do a search & decide whether to pursue this option or not.Jack Douglas wrote:Hi,Grooveman JS wrote:Both my guitars are Spruce tops......I'm looking to acquire another guitar; I was thinking It'd be interesting to have a Cedar top for my 3rd....but after hearing some opinions & comparisons both on Youtube & hearing for myself in person......I decided that I'll try as many guitars as possible; those that I've shortlisted......& I'll go with the one that has the overall best sounding, good looking/workmanship & good playing/feeling be it Cedar or Spruce.
I have a cedar/cocobolo Thomas Malapanis listed with a Georgia dealer. It's a 2006 previously owned by Angel Romero. PM me if you would like the WEB site information. It's quite a guitar.
Good spruce is extremely easy to come by. What they probably mean is good looking spruce is hard to come by. That has got absolutely nothing to do with good sounding spruce though. It's the difference between listening with your eyes and listening with your ears.guitarseller345645 wrote:I remember some makers saying that, due to demand from other instrument makers, and a longer period of use, "good" spruce is harder to come by (?) I also see some manufacturers adding an extra charge if a spruce top is chosen.
For myself, I have no preconceived notions - whatever I play on my factory guitar just sounds "better" to me with a cedar top, with the exception of one Alhambra 1C(A) and one Admira Avila.
I can't really judge, not having played instruments from lots of makers but recently I took my Hermanos Conde 1968 to a respected luthier for some work. His parting comment as I left was something like "I'll have to take the strings off this guitar or I will keep on playing it instead of getting on with work."sosa6string wrote:Im yet to play a cedar topped instrument that has that 'wow factor'. I've played some that i like, but none yet that i really really just can't put down.
It's taken me much experimentation to arrive at the spruce top/Hauser or Torres style guitar. The One Delarue I tried was exceptional and the guitar I have for sale by Thomas Malapanis also exceptional enticed me to try a cedar top. In the end I prefer listening to someone play a cedar top instrument rather than me playing the cedar top. My observation is that cedar is way more forgiving of technique and with the exception of the two makers above (my limit of exposure) lacks the clarity of spruce. On the other hand Cedar offers very rich bold basses and takes much less time to 'break in'zupfgeiger wrote:I prefer spruce tops and traditionally braced guitars in the Spanish or Hauser style. No lattice or doubletop guitar can produce such a sweet sound and such a variety of tone colours. I do play cedar guitars occasionally but get bored with the cedar sound after a while. So I never regretted selling a cedar - with the exeption of my Delarue which was an exceptional instrument.