Most of the 1A:s are long scale 664mm with action above 4/3mm - This makes them a challenge to play for many. There are Ramirez 1A guitars with 650 scale - To my understanding they are easier to play, but don't have that traditional "Ramirez" sound. Should sound wonderful in their own way though.Grooveman JS wrote:I've been making my rounds doing research for my next purchase(s); saw videos of a world class player (don't know if its proper to quote him here) & he loves Ramirez guitars. He mentioned that these guitars; especially the older ones (1A) are not for everyone but if one has the know how to coax the woody & natural tones out of it; its absolutely beautiful. He then went on to encourage a less experienced player seeking advice on buying an instrument to choose "easier" playing guitars. What is it with these guitars, do they have this reputation for being difficult to play? Do these instruments "fight you" or what.....that you've to work extra hard or find a way to play, coax the tones out of these guitars?
Along with him, I've heard some other good players coaxing very nice tones out of their Ramirez instruments too & i think they sound wonderful. It could very well be the most definitive "Spanish Guitar Sound" there is. My own experiences with Ramirez guitars are very limited....its the lower models (a thin line cutaway model & the 4NCWE); my verdict after trying.....I can only say they're ok guitars; playability is pretty good too probably because they're cutaway models.....
Hi Peter i gather what you're saying is quite similar to what another guitar afficianado was alluding to......because Segovia had big hands & wanted an instrument of thicker neck, longer scale & wider fretboard width; every mother's son in the guitar making industry was scrambling to make instruments with such dimensions; eventually earning the reputation guitars of that era being difficult to play....... I'll reproduce it here (btw "xxxxx" in the passage represents a Japanese maker):petermc61 wrote:I agree with what Jon said, at least in the era they seemed to become famous because of Segovia (1960s). I own a 1904 Ramirez 1 and it is dead easy to play. I also owned a 1954 (?) Ramirez II that was also very easy on the hands. But those Ramirez III with 664/54mm setup and chunky necks are a real challenge for many people including myself.
I've come across this video..... This is absolutely beautiful both the player & the guitar itself; the trebles are warm & full sounds.... very warm even for a new Spruce top....Jeldan wrote:Have a try on a Ramirez Antigua 650
Your in for a nice surprise
Peter, you sure got a nice collection, Ramirez II is my fave.....so did you pay a million $$ for these?petermc61 wrote:viewtopic.php?f=11&t=101271rinneby wrote:Would love to see a picture!petermc61 wrote:I own a 1904 Ramirez 1 and it is dead easy to play.
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