We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

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Carter53
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Re: We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

Post by Carter53 » Mon Aug 21, 2017 8:02 pm

This was the best I could get from the auction site.
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Re: We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

Post by Carter53 » Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:09 pm

Good luck to you...
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Re: We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

Post by caneti3 » Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:35 pm

I will not, good luck Jon and thanks!

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Post by rinneby » Tue Aug 22, 2017 5:35 am

caneti3 wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:35 pm
I will not, good luck Jon and thanks!
Unfortunately the bidding took place around 04 this morning, so I was outbid when asleep. No worries though, I'm happy anyway :)

Kind regards
/Jon
1977 - Kuniharu Nobe No.15
1997 - Dragan Musulin
2004 - Alain Raifort Grand Concert
2006 - Casimiro Lozano XXV Aniversario

Feel free to ask me anything about Japanese classical guitars.

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Post by musguitar » Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:08 am

rinneby wrote:
Tue Aug 22, 2017 5:35 am
caneti3 wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:35 pm
I will not, good luck Jon and thanks!
Unfortunately the bidding took place around 04 this morning, so I was outbid when asleep. No worries though, I'm happy anyway :)

Kind regards
/Jon
Excuse me for my ignorance-- what is the url site of the japanese auction site that you guys bid? thanks.

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Post by rinneby » Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:26 am

musguitar wrote:
Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:08 am
rinneby wrote:
Tue Aug 22, 2017 5:35 am
caneti3 wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:35 pm
I will not, good luck Jon and thanks!
Unfortunately the bidding took place around 04 this morning, so I was outbid when asleep. No worries though, I'm happy anyway :)

Kind regards
/Jon
Excuse me for my ignorance-- what is the url site of the japanese auction site that you guys bid? thanks.
Its called Buyee.

/Jon
1977 - Kuniharu Nobe No.15
1997 - Dragan Musulin
2004 - Alain Raifort Grand Concert
2006 - Casimiro Lozano XXV Aniversario

Feel free to ask me anything about Japanese classical guitars.

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Post by rinneby » Fri Aug 25, 2017 1:48 pm

My latest purchase (with thanks to our friend Dandan): A Hiroumi Yamaguchi 山口広海, that I actually don't know very much about, more than it looks to be in good condition with great build quality. Hiroumi Yamaguchi worked for Masaru Matano in the late 1960s and created his own "Cervantes" label in the mid 70s. He was also a part of the Asturias team during the 80s, even though he continued making Cervantes guitars. In 1985 Hiroumi left the Asturias workshop and started his own label with his own name until the early 90s. My guess is that my guitar is from this era. Dandan recognized the rosette to be "Fleta inspired", something that I'm very curious about, since both Matano and Cervantes guitars were Ramirez inspired. The guitar is in Japan right now and I expect it to be in Sweden in about two-three weeks.

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/Jon
1977 - Kuniharu Nobe No.15
1997 - Dragan Musulin
2004 - Alain Raifort Grand Concert
2006 - Casimiro Lozano XXV Aniversario

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Post by Carter53 » Sat Aug 26, 2017 4:56 pm

Congratulation on scoring the Yamaguchi. I have a cedar-topped "Cervantes Clase 500" with his signature. It's probably the most powerful of the dozen or so guitars I have on hand right now. The sound it makes is just beautiful.

I wanted to follow up on the Saburo Nagomi I just received. Even with the old rusted strings it came with I can tell that intonation and volume is good. I'm a happy boy for now.
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1980 Cervantes MC800
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Post by rinneby » Sat Aug 26, 2017 5:06 pm

Carter53 wrote:
Sat Aug 26, 2017 4:56 pm
Congratulation on scoring the Yamaguchi. I have a cedar-topped "Cervantes Clase 500" with his signature. It's probably the most powerful of the dozen or so guitars I have on hand right now. The sound it makes is just beautiful.

I wanted to follow up on the Saburo Nagomi I just received. Even with the old rusted strings it came with I can tell that intonation and volume is good. I'm a happy boy for now.
That is nice to hear. Excited to hear more about the Nagomi!

/Jon
1977 - Kuniharu Nobe No.15
1997 - Dragan Musulin
2004 - Alain Raifort Grand Concert
2006 - Casimiro Lozano XXV Aniversario

Feel free to ask me anything about Japanese classical guitars.

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Post by Grooveman JS » Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:53 am

Congrats Jon.....that looks like a very well maintained guitar......as long as its well kept & well set up.....Japanese guitars are synonymous with impeccable workmanship & high standard of quality for the price......there're lots of older Japanese guitars that I'm not familiar with; tell us how this one plays & sounds.....I guess that's the bottom line.
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Post by rinneby » Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:56 am

Grooveman JS wrote:
Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:53 am
Congrats Jon.....that looks like a very well maintained guitar......as long as its well kept & well set up.....Japanese guitars are synonymous with impeccable workmanship & high standard of quality for the price......there're lots of older Japanese guitars that I'm not familiar with; tell us how this one plays.....I guess that's the bottom line.
Indeed, a picture only tells so much. According to the seller the action is now 4/3 mm and there is still room on the saddle, so that's a good starter I guess.

I would be very surprised if it can challenge my Khono's, but who knows? Hopefully it brings something new to the table at least.

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/Jon
1977 - Kuniharu Nobe No.15
1997 - Dragan Musulin
2004 - Alain Raifort Grand Concert
2006 - Casimiro Lozano XXV Aniversario

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Post by Grooveman JS » Sun Aug 27, 2017 7:03 am

rinneby wrote:
Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:56 am
Grooveman JS wrote:
Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:53 am
Congrats Jon.....that looks like a very well maintained guitar......as long as its well kept & well set up.....Japanese guitars are synonymous with impeccable workmanship & high standard of quality for the price......there're lots of older Japanese guitars that I'm not familiar with; tell us how this one plays.....I guess that's the bottom line.
Indeed, a picture only tells so much. According to the seller the action is now 4/3 mm and there is still room on the saddle, so that's a good starter I guess.

I would be very surprised if it can challenge my Khono's, but who knows? Hopefully it brings something new to the table at least.

Kind regards
/Jon
Yes yes Jon ......I'll be eagerly awaiting your review of this piece..... :merci:
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Post by rinneby » Sun Aug 27, 2017 2:09 pm

The GAS continues...

This is a Atsushi Nakamura No.15 from 1975. There is little information regarding this very luthier, but I know he was an apprentice at the Sakazo Nakade workshop. I bought it just by the looks of the rosette. It was most likely a 150.000 Yen guitar at the time. Any info is much appreciated.

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/Jon
1977 - Kuniharu Nobe No.15
1997 - Dragan Musulin
2004 - Alain Raifort Grand Concert
2006 - Casimiro Lozano XXV Aniversario

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Post by eno » Tue Aug 29, 2017 5:40 pm

I also have a few additions
First is Rokutaro Nakade A9 1969 (probably his highest model in that year), just arrived and still recovering, needs cleaning, saddle adjustment and new strings. I don't know how it sounds yet but overall the condition is very good.
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Second is Kohno No 20 1975 in very good condition, arrived two weeks ago. With new strings it sounds good with even and a bit piano-like sound as most of parallel braced Kohno guitars of the 70s period, but not as good as my 1967 fan-braced Kohno. I will be selling it
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Another one is Yairi YG-20, the year is unknown but based on the label it's from late 60s. Condition is ok with a few scratches and the sound is ok too but nothing special, so I will let it go as well.
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Post by rinneby » Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:30 pm

eno wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2017 5:40 pm
I also have a few additions
First is Rokutaro Nakade A9 1969 (probably his highest model in that year), just arrived and still recovering, needs cleaning, saddle adjustment and new strings. I don't know how it sounds yet but overall the condition is very good.

Second is Kohno No 20 1975 in very good condition, arrived two weeks ago. With new strings it sounds good with even and a bit piano-like sound as most of parallel braced Kohno guitars of the 70s period, but not as good as my 1967 fan-braced Kohno. I will be selling it

Another one is Yairi YG-20, the year is unknown but based on the label it's from late 60s. Condition is ok with a few scratches and the sound is ok too but nothing special, so I will let it go as well.
Congratulations! Will be interesting to hear your thoughts on the A9 vs your older one. I sure looks lovely.

I agree on the Kohno's from the 70s, they are great and all that, but my -65 sounds deeper, more mysterious and with better response. Much easier to play too. My Maestro -96 is another story though, very sweet sounding and probably the best guitar I've played to date, even though I still love my oldie, they are quite different.

The YG-20 is a low-end model, but looks nice from the pictures. But I guess you are doing the right thing selling it!

Kind regards
/Jon
1977 - Kuniharu Nobe No.15
1997 - Dragan Musulin
2004 - Alain Raifort Grand Concert
2006 - Casimiro Lozano XXV Aniversario

Feel free to ask me anything about Japanese classical guitars.

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