We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

Construction and repair of Classical Guitar and related instruments
Carter53
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Re: We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

Post by Carter53 » Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:01 pm

:lol: Must be why he's considered one of the "fathers of Japanese classical guitars."
1964 Sakazo Nakade "D"
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Re: We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

Post by rinneby » Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:42 pm

Carter53 wrote:
Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:01 pm
:lol: Must be why he's considered one of the "fathers of Japanese classical guitars."
:shock:
1965 - Masaru Kono No.5
1975 - Atushi Nakamura No.15
1977 - Kuniharu Nobe No.15
1980 - Hirade Master Arte 8
1996 - Masaru Kohno Maestro

Feel free to ask me anything about Japanese classical guitars.

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Re: We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

Post by es335 » Tue Sep 26, 2017 5:36 pm

rinneby wrote:
Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:42 pm
Carter53 wrote:
Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:01 pm
:lol: Must be why he's considered one of the "fathers of Japanese classical guitars."
:shock:
Ah Jon, don’t be so shy! :lol: :D

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Post by rinneby » Tue Sep 26, 2017 5:42 pm

From one important thing to another...

Here's my Atushi Nakamura, ready for some new frets! :mouton:

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/Jon
1965 - Masaru Kono No.5
1975 - Atushi Nakamura No.15
1977 - Kuniharu Nobe No.15
1980 - Hirade Master Arte 8
1996 - Masaru Kohno Maestro

Feel free to ask me anything about Japanese classical guitars.

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Re: We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

Post by madrilla » Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:00 pm

Has anyone had trouble with the CITES (and to the UK in particular)? It seems from this thread that rosewood guitars are getting through.

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Post by rinneby » Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:05 pm

madrilla wrote:
Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:00 pm
Has anyone had trouble with the CITES (and to the UK in particular)? It seems from this thread that rosewood guitars are getting through.
No trouble so far from what I've heard. But I guess it also depends on how much the actual "value" of the parcel is, more than 2000 Euro and it might be a problem. I can't guarantee anything, of course. Maybe things will change with Brexit.

/Jon
1965 - Masaru Kono No.5
1975 - Atushi Nakamura No.15
1977 - Kuniharu Nobe No.15
1980 - Hirade Master Arte 8
1996 - Masaru Kohno Maestro

Feel free to ask me anything about Japanese classical guitars.

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Re: We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

Post by bejepop » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:28 pm

rinneby wrote:
Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:21 am
bejepop wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2017 2:18 pm
I bought a (new) Kohno 5 in 1967 from the Guitar Shop in Washington, D.C., using the money I made from newspaper deliveries. Wonderful guitar and I spent thousands of hours playing it. Alas, I sold it around 1978 so I could acquire my Gurian ... and have never played another classical guitar so beautifully well-balanced. The buyer was a young woman in Charlottesville, VA who had just opened a music store with her father. I was living in Charlottesville at the time and still remember walking into her store and seeing her surrounded by admiring friends while she played her new acquisition ... she didn't know it had been mine and my feelings of loss were quite strong. If you're on this forum I'd love to hear! I later bought my brother's Kohno 10 (also from 1967) but never found it as comfortable as my 5. Is that because the scale of the 10 is different (does anyone know?).
Hi bejepop, I forgot to replay on your post, sorry about that. The Kohno's from the 60s are often lovely instruments. My guess is that your No.5 was 655 mm scale. The numbers has nothing to do with scale length though and to may understanding Kohno started to use 660 mm scale sometimes in the late 60s early 70s. So your No.10 from -67 was probably 650-655 scale too. Maybe the action was set too high, or the strings used wasn't suited for that particular guitar? With that said the No.10 could have been 660 mm, who knows?

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/Jon
Thanks for the reply. Is it possible the 10 is simply bigger, slightly deeper in the box (from front sounding board to back) than the 5? I've wondered whether the numbering scheme was to indicate louder volume. Still, the 10 is a wonderful sounding instrument (I play guitar - violin duets with my son and the balance is excellent).

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Post by rinneby » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:53 pm

bejepop wrote:
Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:28 pm
Thanks for the reply. Is it possible the 10 is simply bigger, slightly deeper in the box (from front sounding board to back) than the 5? I've wondered whether the numbering scheme was to indicate louder volume. Still, the 10 is a wonderful sounding instrument (I play guitar - violin duets with my son and the balance is excellent).
Hi bejepop, the numbers has nothing to do with how the guitar is constructed, they just represent the actual price of the guitar. A Kohno No.5 = 50.000 Yen and a Kohno No.10 = 100.000 Yen at the time they were sold. With this said, a Kohno No.10 sold in 1967 is worth much more than a Kohno No.10 from 1975 for example, due to the crazy inflation that was going on in the 70s and beginning of the 80s in Japan.

However a No.10 was probably built with Brazilian rosewood in -67 (and maybe some finer decorations) and No.5 was most likely Indian rosewood.

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/Jon
1965 - Masaru Kono No.5
1975 - Atushi Nakamura No.15
1977 - Kuniharu Nobe No.15
1980 - Hirade Master Arte 8
1996 - Masaru Kohno Maestro

Feel free to ask me anything about Japanese classical guitars.

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Re: We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

Post by Jorge Oliveira » Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:31 am

My Kuniharu Nobe has shipped today from Japan in express mail... :D
1972 - Kuniharu Nobe #8, 658/51, Spruce, RW B&S, Tokio, Japan
1987 - Aria A558, 650/51 mm, Cedar, laminated RW B&S, Nagoya, Japan
2014 - Hermanos Camps Master Nº 3, 650/52 mm, Canadian Cedar, Madagascar RW B&S, Banyoles, Spain

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Post by rinneby » Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:32 am

Jorge Oliveira wrote:
Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:31 am
My Kuniharu Nobe has shipped today from Japan in express mail... :D
Yes! :guitare: :mouton: My guess is that you will have the guitar on Tuesday/Wednesday if customs doesn't mess with you ;)
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1965 - Masaru Kono No.5
1975 - Atushi Nakamura No.15
1977 - Kuniharu Nobe No.15
1980 - Hirade Master Arte 8
1996 - Masaru Kohno Maestro

Feel free to ask me anything about Japanese classical guitars.

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Post by rinneby » Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:40 am

Double post. Remove.
1965 - Masaru Kono No.5
1975 - Atushi Nakamura No.15
1977 - Kuniharu Nobe No.15
1980 - Hirade Master Arte 8
1996 - Masaru Kohno Maestro

Feel free to ask me anything about Japanese classical guitars.

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Re: We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

Post by Jorge Oliveira » Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:03 am

rinneby wrote:
Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:32 am
Jorge Oliveira wrote:
Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:31 am
My Kuniharu Nobe has shipped today from Japan in express mail... :D
Yes! :guitare: :mouton: My guess is that you will have the guitar on Tuesday/Wednesday if customs doesn't mess with you ;)
Yes, let's hope so... :). Things in Japan have run quite smoothly and I hope the Portuguese customs clear the package in no time 8). I'll let you know as soon as I get it. Photographs will then follow...
1972 - Kuniharu Nobe #8, 658/51, Spruce, RW B&S, Tokio, Japan
1987 - Aria A558, 650/51 mm, Cedar, laminated RW B&S, Nagoya, Japan
2014 - Hermanos Camps Master Nº 3, 650/52 mm, Canadian Cedar, Madagascar RW B&S, Banyoles, Spain

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Re: We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

Post by caneti3 » Fri Sep 29, 2017 5:48 am

Two days ago I got my first Japanese guitar: Rioji Matsuoka 1972. So far I had only heard good things about Japanese guitars. Now I know why.
The guitar has been bought to Jon and the description that he made me is the same what I perceive when I'm playing: round soft trebles and somewhat midrange emphasized basses, but never harsh or thin sounding. The bass are still vibrating as long as you had a s.XIX Torres guitar. Happy. I've attached a small clip. Excuse the sound (recorded with my cell phone):

https://youtu.be/1wv4S4qCOIQ

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Ferran

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Post by rinneby » Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:00 am

caneti3 wrote:
Fri Sep 29, 2017 5:48 am
Two days ago I got my first Japanese guitar: Rioji Matsuoka 1972. So far I had only heard good things about Japanese guitars. Now I know why.
The guitar has been bought to Jon and the description that he made me is the same what I perceive when I'm playing: round soft trebles and somewhat midrange emphasized basses, but never harsh or thin sounding. The bass are still vibrating as long as you had a s.XIX Torres guitar. Happy. I've attached a small clip. Excuse the sound (recorded with my cell phone):

https://youtu.be/1wv4S4qCOIQ

Best
Ferran
Excellent sound, playing and pictures. Keep up the good work!

All the best from Sweden
/Jon
1965 - Masaru Kono No.5
1975 - Atushi Nakamura No.15
1977 - Kuniharu Nobe No.15
1980 - Hirade Master Arte 8
1996 - Masaru Kohno Maestro

Feel free to ask me anything about Japanese classical guitars.

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Re: We who love Japanese classical guitars - Delcamp

Post by Humphrey » Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:20 pm

My son owns ( now 15 years) a Yuichi Imai a beautiful guitar very loud but sounds also very good.
First he tried at that time a Bernabe, Ramirez and several other guitars from spanish builders but the Imai was foremost the best and musical ( very loud) sounding guitar but I have to say the Imai cost twice at much as the other ones.

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Humphrey

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