Cowboy Guitar Question

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Re: Cowboy Guitar Question

Post by hpaulj » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:48 pm

Martin wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:52 pm
I don't know if its true, but I have read somewhere that whenever the hero walked into the cantina in those 1940's and 50's movies, and a Mexican-looking guy was playing guitar in the corner, it was almost always Vicente Gomez.
He has an IMDB entry. Credits as musician, composer, himself, etc. Blood and Sand seemed to standout.

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Re: Cowboy Guitar Question

Post by Guitar Slim Jr. » Thu Aug 31, 2017 1:40 am

Martin wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:52 pm
I don't know if its true, but I have read somewhere that whenever the hero walked into the cantina in those 1940's and 50's movies, and a Mexican-looking guy was playing guitar in the corner, it was almost always Vicente Gomez.

He also wrote Spanish Romance!*





* not really
Hillarious! Another guy I bet you can hear in at least a couple of westerns is Laurindo Almeida. He did a lot of nylon-string session work in the 50s and 60s in Hollywood.

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Re: Cowboy Guitar Question

Post by Jeffrey Armbruster » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:59 am

And lets not forget Marty Robbins. (El Paso, Cool Water etc.) A lot of his songs made you feel like you were

riding along on a galloping stallion, hoping and wishing a girl would appear===bumpada bumpada bumpada bump, with an Ay, yi yi yi every once in a while.

As a result, his songs are excellent for singing to infants to put them to sleep.
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Re: Cowboy Guitar Question

Post by hpaulj » Thu Aug 31, 2017 3:53 am

Riders in Sky is a contemporary group that plays this style of music, with lots of humor and homages to Roy and company. I first heard them at the Univ. of Chicago folk festival in the late 1970s, and have a couple of their cds from that era. I'm almost surprised that they are still going strong (judging from their website and discography).

Their guitar player is Ranger Doug. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zXvyk0XqpQ&t=130 is a Melbay interview with him. Here he plays an archtop.

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Re: Cowboy Guitar Question

Post by PeteJ » Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:17 am

Lots of good info here, thanks. Searching Gene Autry seems to lead mostly to steel strings. I'll try the other names that have been mentioned. I wonder if the trend for smaller guitars is a little like the 50's trend towards crooning and away from stage-operatic styles.

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Re: Cowboy Guitar Question

Post by bear » Thu Aug 31, 2017 1:29 pm

PeteJ wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:17 am
Lots of good info here, thanks. Searching Gene Autry seems to lead mostly to steel strings. I'll try the other names that have been mentioned. I wonder if the trend for smaller guitars is a little like the 50's trend towards crooning and away from stage-operatic styles.
I can't recall seeing anything but steel being played (by the cowboys). I've had a couple of guitars that have had a sound that reminds me of my time spent in Mexico and the southwest. One was an Ensenada and the was an old Candelas.
I believe the Ensenada was made in Mexico prior to the company moving to Japan.
The Candelas, has a smaller body but slightly longer scale and 49mm nut. Both guitars were cedar.
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Re: Cowboy Guitar Question

Post by Cincy2 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:41 pm

Jeffrey Armbruster wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:49 pm

Happy trails to you
Until we meet again
Happy trails to you
Keep smilin' until then
Happy trails to you
'Til we meet...a...gain.
This tune was beautiful two part harmony sung by Roy and Dale. It kindled my love of music so many years ago. That and Bugs Bunny cartoons with classical music.

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Re: Cowboy Guitar Question

Post by PeteJ » Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:00 pm

Here we go. Thanks to the clues here i found my way to something like the sort of playing and sound I'm speaking of. The first one is pretty and the follow-up (The Good, the Bad and the Ugly) is loads of fun. Not quite the sort of guitar I had in mind but on the right track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCrXP4zSOpo

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Re: Cowboy Guitar Question

Post by DenisJ_III » Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:59 pm

PeteJ wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:00 pm
The first one is pretty and the follow-up (The Good, the Bad and the Ugly) is loads of fun.
Nice thread! :D

I believe there might be a rule that says all references to 'The Good, the Bad and the Ugly' must be linked to here:


Youtube

:) Great musicians, having fun!

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Re: Cowboy Guitar Question

Post by Guitar-ded » Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:47 pm

If you want a fun cowboy guitar for not much money you should google Gretsch Cowboy guitars.
They made a series of four of these some years ago and they were fun little things to play.
The come with steel strings which you can keep on there or change them to nylon.
The red one seemed to be the difficult to find and so the prices for that were a little bit higher.
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Re: Cowboy Guitar Question

Post by PeteJ » Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:30 am

Thanks. I'll check out Gretsch.

I'd change the rule to add a link to this version.

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Re: Cowboy Guitar Question

Post by sxedio » Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:58 am

George Economides was a classical guitarist in Hollywood at the time, not sure what movies he was featured in.
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Re: Cowboy Guitar Question

Post by PeteJ » Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:07 pm

I see there's a discussion of Economides here...

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Re: Cowboy Guitar Question

Post by Jim Frieson » Sat Sep 09, 2017 11:50 am

Bigest infuence and number of recording dates , session players for all the 60s and 70s pop groups commercials , TV , films , were nicknamed The Wrecking Crew . Spanish guitar .... Tommy Tedesco

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Re: Cowboy Guitar Question

Post by PeteJ » Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:52 am

Ah yes, The Wrecking Crew. I think Glen Campbell was around as well.

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