Guitar no 5

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Guitar no 5

Post by geoff-bristol » Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:16 pm

Just a few pics of no 5 - after my first two guitars on the Torres La Suprema model - and a romantic - I made two more based on Hernadez y Aguado. This is the 2nd - siimilar rosette to no 2. I am now just fretting no 6 - similar model to this but braced intenally like the Torres ?

This one is Walnut - 4 piece alpine spruce top - ebony board - cedrella neck - rubner tuners ( basic ). Foolishly I forgot to finish the bare ebony head veneer before stringing ! Its smooth but needed buffing up and oiling etc. The body is polished just off the rag, as you say - with garnet shellac - top was done pale. Bandings birdseye maple. Rosette ebony and figured maple tiles.


Imageno5-final3 by Geoff Richings, on Flickr


Imageno5-final-back by Geoff Richings, on Flickr


Imageno5-final-head by Geoff Richings, on Flickr

Currently fretting no 6 - see progress here
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Re: Guitar no 5

Post by martinardo » Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:19 pm

Looks pretty good to me, Geoff. Dramatic and interesting top decoration enhanced by the typically (?) quite rounded shoulders of the body.

A little hard to pick out, but presumably the body depth is a little greater than 'normal' a la the H y A design ?

Sadly a little too far to visit and hear the instrument in person. :(
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Re: Guitar no 5

Post by geoff-bristol » Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:39 pm

I had an outline only for the Hernandez model - and the sides are more or less as the Torres I made earlier - close to 90mm button - 95mm bottom end total depth. maybe the model needs less volume?

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Post by Paul Micheletti » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:47 pm

That is a very elegant instrument Geoff. Well done!

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Re: Guitar no 5

Post by David Norton » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:02 pm

The walnut is superb!
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Post by JohnH* » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:26 am

Very nice! Your workmanship looks meticulous. Is it typical with this design that the fan struts are not tapered?
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Post by jim watts » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:59 am

Beautiful work!

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Post by vesa » Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:35 am

Walnut looks great. Was your 1st HyA also walnut, if it was´t can you compare the sound difference?
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Re: Guitar no 5

Post by geoff-bristol » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:09 pm

vesa wrote:
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Walnut looks great. Was your 1st HyA also walnut, if it was´t can you compare the sound difference?
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Yes - but the tops were of different really. Both spruce, but the 2nd is a finer tighter winter line - so probably a stiffer top ? I have the first strung and playing but have not spent much time on it. This 2nd one seems a lot better - but as said I think, the first has La Bella strings - the 2nd ej45. I play on ej45/6 ( well learning to play ! - I can actually finger Lagrima now without bones sticking out ) - so thats what I'm used to. This 2nd one - on first set up to pitch - seems very nice.

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Re: Guitar no 5

Post by Justfun » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:16 pm

Geoff, nice and you don't need to finish the ebony-head is just fine.
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Re: Guitar no 5

Post by geoff-bristol » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:16 pm

David Norton wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:02 pm
The walnut is superb!
It was a plank I bought local for £40 - did 5 guitars in the end - albeit the last one is 6 piece.
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Re: Guitar no 5

Post by geoff-bristol » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:26 pm

Justfun wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:16 pm
Geoff, nice and you don't need to finish the ebony-head is just fine.
May look ok in pic - but it just off the scraper.
I finish ebony with mineral oil and fine micromesh. It just glows then ! As said - I don't like it polished. I polish the button as its almost impossible not to.

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Re: Guitar no 5

Post by geoff-bristol » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:27 pm

Justfun wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:16 pm
Geoff, nice and you don't need to finish the ebony-head is just fine.
May look ok in pic - but it just off the scraper.
I finish ebony with mineral oil and fine micromesh. It just glows then ! As said - I don't like it polished. I polish the button as its almost impossible not to.

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Re: Guitar no 5

Post by simonm » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:52 pm

Lovely bit of work Geoff. I notice that you have compensated the nut for the g string. Did you do that on the others as well?

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Re: Guitar no 5

Post by geoff-bristol » Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:07 pm

simonm wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:52 pm
Lovely bit of work Geoff. I notice that you have compensated the nut for the g string. Did you do that on the others as well?
Thanks - its rougher round the edges than it looks !
Not all - the first Torres was zero @ nut - also the romantic was the same zero. The 1st Hernandez was modified with a stepped nut ( ie 1mm super glued on and ground back. This one and the 2nd Torres I mostly play daily - had the boards 1mm short - then I grind back a rebate 0.5mm on the nut- leaving the G untouched. Quite easy to do if the board goes in 1mm short. Just a quick dremel along.
Basically all @ minus 0.5mm G @ minus 1mm

Can I tell the difference - nope. That said - can I play Lagrima - nope ( well 'improving' ! )

All the saddles have fairly standard intonations for ej45 from various sources here. They seem to work fine.

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