Help with I'd of old Japanese classical guitar

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Charliecheswick
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Help with I'd of old Japanese classical guitar

Post by Charliecheswick » Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:09 pm

Hi there can anybody help with I'd of this very old looking Japanese classical

Think in has RJ logo on body

Bought it ages ago, and forgot about it, just found it in the loft, I think I only paid £10 for it

Many thanks
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rinneby
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Re: Help with I'd of old Japanese classical guitar

Post by rinneby » Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:35 am

I would say it almost impossible to tell without a label. To me it looks like a factory made guitar built in the 50s or 60s, most likely a student model. It could be a "Bruno Ventura" or maybe even an old Yairi.

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/Jon
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1977 - Kuniharu Nobe No.15
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Re: Help with I'd of old Japanese classical guitar

Post by Charliecheswick » Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:38 am

Hi Jon, thanks I appreciate the help, it doesn't seem like a well put together instrument, but the tone from that one string, makes me think it's worth restringing, cleaning up, I'll look into your suggestions

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Re: Help with I'd of old Japanese classical guitar

Post by Charliecheswick » Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:40 am

I thought the wave pattern at the end of the bottom of the neck might help with id

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Re: Help with I'd of old Japanese classical guitar

Post by rinneby » Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:00 pm

Charliecheswick wrote:
Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:38 am
Hi Jon, thanks I appreciate the help, it doesn't seem like a well put together instrument, but the tone from that one string, makes me think it's worth restringing, cleaning up, I'll look into your suggestions
Yes clean it up and put on some fresh strings. Hopefully it sounds good.

/Jon
1965 - Masaru Kono No.5
1975 - Atushi Nakamura No.15
1977 - Kuniharu Nobe No.15
1980 - Hirade Master Arte 8
1996 - Masaru Kohno Maestro

Feel free to ask me anything about Japanese classical guitars.

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Re: Help with I'd of old Japanese classical guitar

Post by rinneby » Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:08 pm

double post...
1965 - Masaru Kono No.5
1975 - Atushi Nakamura No.15
1977 - Kuniharu Nobe No.15
1980 - Hirade Master Arte 8
1996 - Masaru Kohno Maestro

Feel free to ask me anything about Japanese classical guitars.

Charliecheswick
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Re: Help with I'd of old Japanese classical guitar

Post by Charliecheswick » Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:15 pm

Wowzer, that's one beautiful guitar

Like yours, mine is as light as feather(literally!)

Do you reckon by the pic it's a solid top or laminate

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Re: Help with I'd of old Japanese classical guitar

Post by joelmalit » Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:19 pm

probably an earlier Sadao Yairi
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Re: Help with I'd of old Japanese classical guitar

Post by Charliecheswick » Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:11 pm

Hi, thanks for the tip off, I'll look into their guitars. The body shape and neck wave are a good match

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Re: Help with I'd of old Japanese classical guitar

Post by es335 » Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:37 pm

Charliecheswick wrote:
Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:40 am
I thought the wave pattern at the end of the bottom of the neck might help with id
One sees this wave pattern quite often at mid or earlier last century guitars from Markneukirchen in Saxonia/Germany! :wink:
Wonder who influenced whom? :D

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