Probably more like rocket-launchers at five feet.jfdana wrote:This question tends to be discussed to the point of pistols at 20 paces on steel string fora.
So, you've visited the UMGF, eh? ;^)This question tends to be discussed to the point of pistols at 20 paces on steel string fora.
Don't want to dispute this, but it seems to me that by definition, a fossil becomes one by the addition of minerals over time, rather than the leeching of them. Isn't fossilization pretty much the same as petrification like petrified wood?MikFik wrote:Simply put: Ivory is lighter than bone and the fossilized stuff is even lighter due to the extreme age and the leeching of minerals over time.
As I understand it, fossilization is the process where minerals replace tissues from living organisms, bone or otherwise. Fossils can be the mineralized remains, or even just an imprint in the stone where the organism once was. Petrification refers to some organic material turning into stone without decaying. This last point is the main difference.hsmyers wrote: Don't want to dispute this, but it seems to me that by definition, a fossil becomes one by the addition of minerals over time, rather than the leeching of them. Isn't fossilization pretty much the same as petrification like petrified wood?
Interesting note. I might try a press fit with my saddle upgrade.MikFik wrote:Preveously I had been making a loose slip fit between saddle and slot (for fear of the bridge cracking from too tight a fit) but this time I made it a press fit, took the saddle back out and polished it to a glass finish. When I re-installed it in the slot I could feel both edges of the horn as they slid down the slot walls. A perfect fit (or as close as possible) and this very well be the cause of the wonderful tone I now get.
I will respectfully disagree on fossilized walrus ivory being lighter than bone. I've been making saddles for 15 years and have done more experimentation than I want to admit, but I've never had a FWI saddle that was lighter than its bone counterpart. Even bone saddle that are slightly thicker and larger tend to weigh less than FWI.MikFik wrote:Simply put: Ivory is lighter than bone and the fossilized stuff is even lighter due to the extreme age and the leeching of minerals over time. It is at least as hard as cow bone but it is way easier to work. The guitars that I've gone to the expense to put ivory in the saddle slot sounded great before and sounded great after the change so I can't answer your question but I love the stuff. The distributor says it's 10,000 years old. I don't know if that's true but I like the idea of something that old and beautiful on my guitars.
Based on what you've written, it sounds like bone is still the preferred standard based on your experiments to date.fscott55 wrote:FWI is very dense and hard. I've used it on Martin guitars to some good effect to reduce the "wolliness" and tubbiness. On classical guitars my experience has been less than stellar. I find that FWI on classical reduces the openess and bassiness which my ears like to hear, and increases the "stringiness" on the instrument.
I've used real elephant ivory on dreadnoughts, but have not yet had a chance to try them on classical. They are softer than bone and noticeably reduce the high frequencies. I'm not a fan of real elephant ivory for several reasons but I think they might sound OK on classical if you want more tubby bass and less highs.