Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by keithwwk » Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:45 pm

Hey Jon, thks.. I missed the 510CR and MR listed there. I will try them and also the EJ43 after this Augustine red get rusty.

I am still exploring this guitar...

Seem mine is the lowest end Sakurai in this thread here.. :lol:
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Post by rinneby » Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:55 pm

keithwwk wrote:Hey Jon, thks.. I missed the 510CR and MR listed there. I will try them and also the EJ43 after this Augustine red get rusty.

I am still exploring this guitar...

Seem mine is the lowest end Sakurai in this thread here.. :lol:
Don't get hung up by the numbers, they really doesn't tell much regarding the sound or playability of the guitar. It's mostly cosmetic. My Kono No.5 from 1965 for example, is one of the best sounding guitar I've heard to date.

/Jon
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1976 - Kazuo Yairi YC-250
2007 - Lorenzo Frignani

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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by bullpuppy » Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:24 am

Kohno made a lot of soundboard's that ended up as being installed on other branded guitars. These usually have kohno stamp on the label. Are there cases where he didn't stamp his soundboards?

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Post by rinneby » Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:09 am

bullpuppy wrote:Kohno made a lot of soundboard's that ended up as being installed on other branded guitars. These usually have kohno stamp on the label. Are there cases where he didn't stamp his soundboards?
Yes, there is. Tama, Juan Orozco, Aranjuez, Takamine, Aria and Yamato to name a few. Any specific guitar you are thinking of?

/Jon
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1976 - Kazuo Yairi YC-250
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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by keithwwk » Sun Feb 26, 2017 10:07 am

The color of mine is too cedar than spruce. I couldn't resist tried flashlight test on my No.5 and no light passes through the top, so cedar it is. I double confirm my test is work by flashlighted my cg151s spruce and it light up like a lantern. Anyway I bought the 5 as cedar in mind. :D
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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by Grooveman JS » Mon Feb 27, 2017 7:16 am

rinneby wrote:
keithwwk wrote:Hey Jon, thks.. I missed the 510CR and MR listed there. I will try them and also the EJ43 after this Augustine red get rusty.

I am still exploring this guitar...

Seem mine is the lowest end Sakurai in this thread here.. :lol:
Don't get hung up by the numbers, they really doesn't tell much regarding the sound or playability of the guitar. It's mostly cosmetic. My Kono No.5 from 1965 for example, is one of the best sounding guitar I've heard to date.

/Jon
+1 This dealer on www.vintagekohnoguitars.com was quoted as saying .....when Julian Bream was introduced to Kohno guitars; he played a few of the models & picked out a lesser model. He continued to use that guitar in concert performances for that time.
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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by bullpuppy » Tue Feb 28, 2017 3:25 pm

I have a 1976 aranjuez no 6 which sounds better than my kohno number 10. The no. 6 has a kohno stamped soundboard with a ryoji body. I just bought a 1978 aranjuez no. 5 without a kohno stamp and waiting for it to arrive. It may have a kohno stamp, but could have faded. The body was made by takamine. I also have a Yamato no.8 with kohno stamp it it sounds wonderful, very plane without frilles. None of the yamatos have kohno rosettes but i have one 1966 no.30 that im restoring with some bad cracks in the soundboard. Hopefully it will live up to kohonos since it was 30000 yen in 1966. I did see some takemine no.5 with kohno rossetes but none of them are stamped. I love to here about other kohno tops out there.

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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by keithwwk » Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:01 am

Hi bullpuppy,
The stamp you mentioned is red colour round shape?
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Post by rinneby » Thu Mar 02, 2017 12:39 pm

bullpuppy wrote:I love to here about other kohno tops out there.
Dandan has a nice Aria AG-80 from the 70s that is Sakurai-topped. I can ask him to show some pictures.

/Jon
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Post by dandan » Thu Mar 02, 2017 5:54 pm

To my knowledge, this guitar was designed by Masaki Sakurai at the request of Aria, but actually constructed by one of Aria's own luthiers, possibly Masaru Takeiri. As far as I'm aware the Orozco guitars were entirely constructed by Tama in the same way. I used to have a Tama TC10 and this is a better guitar. The Tama was rather heavily built.
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Post by rinneby » Thu Mar 02, 2017 6:50 pm

dandan wrote:To my knowledge, this guitar was designed by Masaki Sakurai at the request of Aria, but actually constructed by one of Aria's own luthiers, possibly Masaru Takeiri.
That "Sakurai" is a very desirable guitar, I can understand you bought it back :). Just like my AG-50 I've never seen another one.

/Jon
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1976 - Kazuo Yairi YC-250
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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by dandan » Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:27 pm

rinneby wrote:
dandan wrote:To my knowledge, this guitar was designed by Masaki Sakurai at the request of Aria, but actually constructed by one of Aria's own luthiers, possibly Masaru Takeiri.
That "Sakurai" is a very desirable guitar, I can understand you bought it back :). Just like my AG-50 I've never seen another one.

/Jon
Its even better than I remember! I see you decided to keep your Sakurai, at least for a while. Sometimes takes a while to get to grips with a new guitar. Best not to rush into selling and then regret it like I did. At least I got it back!
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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by rinneby » Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:32 pm

dandan wrote:I see you decided to keep your Sakurai, at least for a while
Yes, the guitar grows on me. :guitare:

/Jon
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1976 - Kazuo Yairi YC-250
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Post by rinneby » Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:34 pm

double post...
1965 - Masaru Kono No.5
1973 - Ryoji Matsuoka No.80
1976 - Kazuo Yairi YC-250
2007 - Lorenzo Frignani

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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by Grooveman JS » Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:44 am

Good for you Jon, enjoy your instrument
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