This was my initial assumption seeing theses pictures but was irritated by the formely unknown company O.Schlosser and Schneidermusik's price. Finally I found the German seller in Munich in the BAY which I did remember for Der Jung tuners. Search for Magic Guitar Parts or Der Jung and you will find them just at half of the price!
Thank you for your information, perhaps I will give them a trie sometime. I found also this is a kind of missinformation on the schneider site and did not like that - not very german at all in fact.
choro wrote:Hello Christian,
der Jung Tuning machines are not very good in Quality .
i have one on an cheap student 3/4 guitar of my daughter.
Selling Price is around 25 Euros here in Germany .
If you are searching for a good working machine
in the pricerange 25 - 80 Euro i would go with
Rubners or Schallers .
They are not outstanding, but a better value for the same Money
Thank you for your return. Normally I like Rubner and I find they are excellent value for the money. I have seen many worn out Schaller tuners on pretty expensive guitars, they feel like having sand in the gear, and personally I wouldn't use them. In general I see sometimes tuners which are poorly fitted and do not work smooth because of that - and the best tuners would not avoid this. I have seen this with Rubner also, if the holes are too tight they will not run smooth. There are a few very simple issues with tuners that makes them run smooth or not. Cheaper tuners have sometimes eccentric splints in the rollers which inhibits the roller to turn regularly and make them turning hard. It is enough to change the roller for a perfectly concentric and it will run smooth then.
As anyone I love nice tuners and I will pay any amount for a pair of tuners as long as the client really wants them. What I personally found is that is also a very psychological subject - you can have very nice tuners which cost 30 euros and run very smooth and do not wear as long as they are correctly mounted. I have seen hard running Sloan tuners also and I don't think that the brand itself is a guaranty.