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Re: D05 Classical guitar lesson 06

Post by Satyajit Kadle » Fri Mar 18, 2016 7:47 am

Well done Loiseng, Eric and John.

Here's my Manuelito thus far:

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I have two questions. When it gets to D major, in bar 67, 2nd chord, do we play E natural or E sharp (F natural) ? The score shows a barre with first finger but that would mean playing F natural. And also in bar 77, do we play the E open, and then slide from 1st fret ?

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Re: D05 Classical guitar lesson 06

Post by EricKatz » Fri Mar 18, 2016 10:26 am

Hello John,

Here are my comments on your three pieces.

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m.6: first note on third beat should be G
m.14: pay attention to the damping/rests of the bass note
overall: you've play this piece very rubato (just like professor Delcamp); one could argue that this exercise is about playing 4 groups of sixteenth notes right on the beat, which is considerably more difficult.

Manuelito
Very musically played! M.53-56 and m.61-64 came out perfectly. :bravo:

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Enjoyable!
My only comment is that the up-beat notes A and B in m.1-6 come out better if the bass note is damped (just like is indicated).
A funny thing is that I thought you made a mistake in m.14 and m.15, but it's me who played B (in stead of B flat) in the bassnotes of m.14 and F (instead of E) as last uppernote in m.15. :contrat: Thanks for pointing this out by playing it the right way! :lol:
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Re: D05 Classical guitar lesson 06

Post by EricKatz » Fri Mar 18, 2016 10:51 am

Hello Satyajit,

Very good first draft!
The beginning of the introduction could be played more legato. It's also important to control the volume of your playing. For example, you neglect the piano sign in bar 9. Also the third and second beat of the waltz are too loud and too heavy. :chaud: Try to play them soft and light.

To answer your questions: the second uppernote in m.67 and m.75 must definitly be an E sharp (don't call it F natural - the 2nd section is in D major), according to the original version in Arcas' complete works (Soneto edition).
You're right about the slide. Mind the damping of e-b-g after the first beat, so the only thing you hear is the slide. It's very hard to start at the first fret and to let the B sound exactly at the second beat. To get the timing right, you can also make the slide from the third fret (G). You won't hear a difference. It's all about letting sound the B at the right time! :bye:

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Re: D05 Classical guitar lesson 06

Post by Satyajit Kadle » Fri Mar 18, 2016 12:21 pm

Thanks for your feedback and answers, Eric.

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Re: D05 Classical guitar lesson 06

Post by John Montes » Sat Mar 19, 2016 1:07 am

Thanks for the feedback Eric, its very helpful.
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Re: D05 Classical guitar lesson 06

Post by Z. Quentin » Sun Mar 20, 2016 5:37 am

Loiseng Kee wrote: Here is my submission. My right hand ring finger seems injured, so might stop playing for at least a month.
Wow~ even with an injured ring finger, your playing sounds great! I hope it was able to heal on its own.

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Re: D05 Classical guitar lesson 06

Post by Z. Quentin » Sun Mar 20, 2016 5:42 am

John Montes wrote:Here's the Sagreras piece, there's room for improvement :-)
Hello~ Please forgive me if I've missed a question and/or reply regarding this, but I noticed that you are wearing a wrist sleeve while playing. Is this because of playing or possibly to avoid injury while playing? I'm still very much a beginner and I thank you in advance for your reply.

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Re: D05 Classical guitar lesson 06

Post by John Montes » Sun Mar 20, 2016 5:56 am

Z. Quentin wrote: Hello~ Please forgive me if I've missed a question and/or reply regarding this, but I noticed that you are wearing a wrist sleeve while playing. Is this because of playing or possibly to avoid injury while playing? I'm still very much a beginner and I thank you in advance for your reply.
The arm sleeve is for two purposes, to make it easier to move the arm along the bout of the guitar without skin resistance, and to protect the guitar finish from body oils or perspiration that can damage or dull the finish over time.
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Re: D05 Classical guitar lesson 06

Post by Z. Quentin » Sun Mar 20, 2016 7:53 am

John Montes wrote: The arm sleeve is for two purposes, to make it easier to move the arm along the bout of the guitar without skin resistance, and to protect the guitar finish from body oils or perspiration that can damage or dull the finish over time.
Oh! :-) Thank you very much for your reply. That makes good sense.

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Re: D05 Classical guitar lesson 06

Post by Loiseng Kee » Sun Mar 20, 2016 11:15 pm

Z. Quentin wrote:
Loiseng Kee wrote: Here is my submission. My right hand ring finger seems injured, so might stop playing for at least a month.
Wow~ even with an injured ring finger, your playing sounds great! I hope it was able to heal on its own.
Dear Friend,

Thanks for Ur care. It was like recovered about 50%, I am still trying to train it back.

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Re: D05 Classical guitar lesson 06

Post by Satyajit Kadle » Fri Mar 25, 2016 2:22 pm

Julio Sagreras (1879-1942) Leccione III n°7

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Re: D05 Classical guitar lesson 06

Post by EricKatz » Sat Mar 26, 2016 10:44 am

Well done, Satyajit. Lesson 6 is now completed!
The arpeggio is good.
Sometimes you play too carefully, too soft, too shy. Maybe it's a good idea to experiment playing the piece as loud as possible (only once, as a kind of exercise).
I also advice to work on chord transitions. They're OK in the first part, but after m.10 there are gaps between the bars. Try chords only, with a metronome. Take a good look at the position of your fingers in the first chord and find out which finger is the first to be moved and to what place, which finger is next etc. You should know where your fingers have to go (and when).

Now up to lesson7. Good luck!

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Re: D05 Classical guitar lesson 06

Post by John Montes » Sun Mar 27, 2016 4:38 am

Very nicely done Satyajit :bravo:
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Re: D05 Classical guitar lesson 06

Post by Satyajit Kadle » Sun Mar 27, 2016 12:52 pm

Thanks for feedback!

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Re: D05 Classical guitar lesson 06

Post by John Montes » Tue Mar 29, 2016 4:59 am

Revised recording of the lesson 6 Sagreras arpeggio study.

Fixed the m6 G note, I played it as f# in the first take--sight-read error, need to renew my optical prescription :-)
The m14 D bass note damp is in there as well.
Thanks for catching those Eric, its really appreciated

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