ibanez 8 String Classical

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ibanez 8 String Classical

Postby bsteffen » Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:39 am

Hello, I couldn't find a thread on this so i thought i'd post one. I've been looking for an affordable 8 string classical guitar for some time now and i keep coming back to this Ibanez 8 string production model guitar. Has anyone played one of this? Our local guitar shops do not carry it. I see it selling online for about $650 american. Which i think is pretty cheap for an 8 string and am suspicious about how great of quality it could really be. If anyone reading this has one, or seen on does it have the truss rod?

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Re: ibanez 8 String Classical

Postby RobMacKillop » Wed Aug 05, 2015 6:50 am

Wow. It looks good. They have a 7-string version too. Great for Dowland...

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Re: ibanez 8 String Classical

Postby Alan Green » Wed Aug 05, 2015 6:53 am

Ibanez make good 8-string rock guitars, so they have some pedigree. I'd be circumspect about it though; a company that makes great shred machines might make CGs that turn out to be rubbish because it's not their chosen specialism. Put the boot on the other foot - how many of our luthiers on this site would be comfortable hand-winding a humbucker?

That said, there's not a big market for 8-string CGs yet because there's nobody making them at affordable prices, and shops won't carry guitars on spec that might never return them a profit because they never sell. Caveat emptor - any way you can get it on try-before-you-buy?

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Re: ibanez 8 String Classical

Postby RobMacKillop » Wed Aug 05, 2015 7:10 am

Ibanez don't have one base for making guitars. They use different workshops all over Asia. So, these guitars might well have been made in a classical guitar workshop.

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Re: ibanez 8 String Classical

Postby bsteffen » Wed Aug 05, 2015 6:35 pm

I live in a small town in montana, I don't really have access to try before I buy. You are spot on alen, those are my concerns. However as you said the do have a reputation for making fine rock guitars, would the really create a CG that is absolute crap? That's really the big question. It's unfortunate this guitar hasn't been on the market longer so I could find some better reviews.

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Re: ibanez 8 String Classical

Postby 2handband » Thu Aug 06, 2015 4:31 am

K, pro player here who owns several Ibanez electrics. Here's the deal: I've never had my hands on an Ibanez CG, but every acoustic guitar I've ever encountered with the Ibanez name on it (I strongly suspect they are ghost-built and not even made in an Ibanez factory) has been @#$%. Worse, Ibanez quality control took a sharp turn for the worse around the turn of the century and has not recovered. This includes their high-end models. I personally would not touch anything the company has made in the past 15 years.

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Re: ibanez 8 String Classical

Postby MessyTendon » Thu Aug 06, 2015 5:37 am

It will sound like a congested mass produced guitar but it will give you the range you need to interpret the music you want to explore. I would agree Ibanez 15-20 years ago made good instruments, not so much today.

Getting to a dealer would be your best bet. Try it let us know what you think. I would expect a guitar that doesn't have much response,but maybe it would play okay. Check the return policy before you buy it.

It's a consumer grade guitar, so should be able to return it.

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Re: ibanez 8 String Classical

Postby RobMacKillop » Thu Aug 06, 2015 6:56 am

I disagree about their recent quality, especially when it comes to jazz guitars. They are making some superb models.

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Re: ibanez 8 String Classical

Postby 2handband » Thu Aug 06, 2015 12:52 pm

RobMacKillop wrote:I disagree about their recent quality, especially when it comes to jazz guitars. They are making some superb models.


Haven't played the jazz models. I can ell you with absolute certainty that recent RG models suffer from premature fret wear.

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Re: ibanez 8 String Classical

Postby RobMacKillop » Thu Aug 06, 2015 1:08 pm

I accept that. Some good things, some bad things. It's a gamble. Still, you can always return it if you don't like it.

But there's another issue which has got the eight-string in the back of mind. For a guitarist wishing a luthier-made instrument of good to high quality, but has never played an eight string, this Ibanez model would be a good try-out. I'd like to try Dm tuning on it, for instance. I feel ten and eleven-string guitars are too boomy and troublesome for the French baroque lute repertoire, whereas eight strings would be more controllable. I've played baroque lutes before, and they are hard work for most players. We rarely hear the French repertoire, some of it very high quality, on the classical guitar, because the modern guitar tuning just doesn't sound anything like the 11c tuning, and the French just loved exploiting that open-chord tuning. It's a bit like trying to play modern DADGAD stuff on a standard-tuned classical. You might get most of the notes, but the sound would be all wrong.

So, for those reasons, I find the idea of a cheap 8-string attractive, even if the quality is not great. Well, I'm thinking about it.

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Re: ibanez 8 String Classical

Postby Stephen Kenyon » Thu Aug 06, 2015 2:11 pm

Alan Green wrote:Ibanez make good 8-string rock guitars, so they have some pedigree. I'd be circumspect about it though; a company that makes great shred machines might make CGs that turn out to be rubbish because it's not their chosen specialism.


Not sure the exact chronology but they were making widely advertised classicals in the 1980s, so at the least, around the time they were also making electrics - and long before 7/8 string electrics.

I have in my memory a notion that originally the company made guitars - and boats, and when a small concern just switched workforce from one to the other as required.
Simon Ambridge Series 40 (2005)
Trevor Semple Series 88 (1992)
Louis Panormo (1838)
Alexander Batov Baroque Guitar (2013)

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Re: ibanez 8 String Classical

Postby 2handband » Thu Aug 06, 2015 4:28 pm

Well hell... there's one on my local Craigslist for $300. I'm going to have to snatch it; worst case I can sell it for that. I will post my impressions.

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Re: ibanez 8 String Classical

Postby RobMacKillop » Thu Aug 06, 2015 4:31 pm

Go for it!

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Re: ibanez 8 String Classical

Postby 2handband » Thu Aug 06, 2015 4:45 pm

RobMacKillop wrote:Go for it!


Driving over to look at it right now :)

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Re: ibanez 8 String Classical

Postby 2handband » Thu Aug 06, 2015 5:39 pm

I bought it. It looks like new; the guy bought it then managed to main his left hand. I may post pics later, but it looks pretty much exactly like the pic on Amazon.

I spent about ten minutes with it before forking over $$$. First impression: for me, it's an upgrade. My only CG is a very cheap Yamaha from the 70s. It plays good but sounds like canned XXX. This Ibanez is nobody's idea of high-end, but it sounds way better than the Yamaha. Plays nice. The two bass strings sound flabby but right now they're tuned to B and G. It will probably improve with increased tension. It needs new strings anyway; I will try to find an 8 string set online. It'll take some getting used to; for one thing I have a habit left over from playing other styles of using my thumb for bass notes; not gonna happen here. Also I find it a little disorienting, but nothing I won't be able to get used to I think. I'm gonna spend about an hour with it right now and will post again later.


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