NGD: 8-string

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RobMacKillop
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NGD: 8-string

Post by RobMacKillop » Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:48 pm

Having played a lot of lute music over a twenty-year period, and having recently sold my lutes to return my focus to guitar playing, it soon became apparent that an extended-range guitar might be useful for me. The question was how many strings, 8, 10 or 11? Commissioning an instrument is an expensive way to find out. Then I noticed an 8-string classical guitar by Ibanez, a blemished, lower-priced model – really inexpensive. I took the plunge…

The video below was made after having the instrument for only two days. I put it in what lute manuscripts in Scotland called ‘Harp Sharp’ tuning, that is: (treble to bass) c# a f# d a e d b. It’s an unusual tuning, not one you are likely to slip into during a concert, but the music for it is very beautiful, and worth the effort.

The guitar is an Ibanez G208CWC, and although Ibanez are not paying me to say this, I heartily recommend it for anyone ready to experiment with added strings. I got a blemished model at a lower price, but it’s in near perfect condition. I like its soft bass sound – you don’t want a long-sustained bass for lute music, you’d have to keep stopping the string after playing it.

I'm hugely impressed with this instrument for the price, it could easily sell for three times what I paid for it. The tuners are not bad, I suppose I could upgrade them at some point, but they do the job well. The craftsmanship looks very good - I'm not sure what the blemish is supposed to be...I can't see anything wrong with it.

I'm looking forward to exploring what else I can do with 8 strings, and not just lute music.


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Re: NGD: 8-string

Post by MessyTendon » Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:12 pm

That's the stock guitar, no new nut or saddle? Intonation is good? What strings do you use? Are you going to splurge on a set of gut strings?

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Re: NGD: 8-string

Post by RobMacKillop » Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:39 pm

It's all stock. Arrived yesterday. I've done nothing to it. No, I won't opt for gut. I'm not pretending it's a lute, and I like the sound as it is. The strings are by Savarez:

strings Savarez 510CJ(set) + 5207R(7th) + 5208R(8th) Nylon strings
(.0295/.0335/.0413/.0297/.0356/.0440/.0500/.0590)

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Re: NGD: 8-string

Post by RobMacKillop » Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:40 pm

Intonation seems good. It's an impressive guitar, I have to say.

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Re: NGD: 8-string

Post by RobMacKillop » Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:02 am

Bump. No other interest in this guitar?

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Re: NGD: 8-string

Post by acmost9 » Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:32 am

Very nice sounding through my iPad...congrats!

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Re: NGD: 8-string

Post by RobMacKillop » Sun Sep 13, 2015 8:02 am

Cheers! Sounds even better through good headphones :-)

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Re: NGD: 8-string

Post by acmost9 » Sun Sep 13, 2015 8:55 am

Heh, no doubt...it is a drag that most music and vids are heard through Tablet and Laptop Speakers these days.

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Re: NGD: 8-string

Post by Daniel Clifton » Sun Sep 13, 2015 11:23 am

Thanks Rob. A well spent 11:05! What did you use to record this? It sound very good over the iPad, and I especially like the Black and White.

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Re: NGD: 8-string

Post by riffmeister » Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:17 pm

Congrats!!

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Re: NGD: 8-string

Post by RobMacKillop » Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:47 pm

Cheers, lads.

Here's my set up: Rode NT4 stereo mic into Fostex FR2LE hard-drive recorder. 15 year-old video camera, Panasonic. I edit the sound in Wavelab Essential, cut the beginning and end off, maybe up the volume a little, and a touch reverb if needed. I edit the video in Vegas Studio Lite, substituting the edited sound file for the camera version - very easy to do. And that's about it.

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Re: NGD: 8-string

Post by Michael Lazar » Sun Sep 13, 2015 3:09 pm

That's really lovely Rob. I've got Bose desktop speakers including a sub woofer as part of my computer set up so I can assess recordings quite well. The guitar seems very decent and the music is exquisite.

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Re: NGD: 8-string

Post by Feynman » Sun Sep 13, 2015 3:31 pm

This is superb all around. Thanks for sharing it with us.
-mitch

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Re: NGD: 8-string

Post by RobMacKillop » Sun Sep 13, 2015 3:36 pm

Thanks, Michael. I'm happy to know it passes the Bose test!

Thanks, Mitch. Much appreciated.

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Re: NGD: 8-string

Post by Dave » Mon Sep 14, 2015 2:17 pm

Very nice playing, and guitar.
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