Cordoba GK Pro vs Studio, plugged in sound

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Cordoba GK Pro vs Studio, plugged in sound

Post by Blondie » Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:54 pm

As the title suggest, I'd like to hear from anyone who has played both the GK Pro and GK Studio, through the same Amp/PA system, and what you can say about the difference in sound.

The pick up system on the GK Pro is about 10 times the price of the system in the Studio, obviously the pro is all solid wood and is a better quality build, but its the difference in the 'plugged in' sound I'm interested in. I can't find a direct recorded comparison, unfortunately.

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Re: Cordoba GK Pro vs Studio, plugged in sound

Post by MessyTendon » Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:11 am

Generally speaking I don't think there would be an astounding difference. Cheap OEM electronics are slapped in one way or the other. I mean about 20 years ago it was a big deal to have a three band eq and pickup...Now there are tons of knock offs that perform equally bad.

For what it's worth I think it's better to setup a transducer pickup system that is carefully placed to get the most dynamics. A single jack on the end of the guitar is far better than dealing with batteries. Coupled to a preamp/amp, the sound can be cleaner and more focused.

Most those 9 volt preamps, pretty much are wimpy for dynamics...it's like all or nothing. Factor in your likely going to run it into a junky pa system or noisy mixing board amp...The Cordoba lineage gets the best performance at the lower end of the spectrum.

Consider both Cordoba guitars to be comparable in electronics, since they are based on very similar circuits. The increase premium in price comes with licensing names such as Fishman or B-Band...whatever they call it, it's just a mass produced circuit in some factory.

For what it's worth you could fashion a single piezo in your bridge slot and wire to a jack/strap button on any modestly priced guitar. Then run it into a good preamp.

It's not as simple as brand A is better than brand B...

If you already purchased the lower end model Cordoba you'll be just fine. As you go up in price with Cordoba products, the diminishing curve sets in real fast.

From a broad based generalization I have no problem saying most all OEM 9 volt preamps are garbage.

An independent preamp circuit, coupled to a modestly sized solid state amp with a good speaker is going to be light years better. Sadly not many are willing to take the audiophile approach.

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Re: Cordoba GK Pro vs Studio, plugged in sound

Post by PeteJ » Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:00 pm

Hmm. That makes sense. I hadn't thought much about the pre-amp, Are all the manufacturers using onboard battery pre-amps?

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Re: Cordoba GK Pro vs Studio, plugged in sound

Post by ronjazz » Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:33 am

the Zoom A3 has lots of EQ settings, as well as both mic and 1/4" inputs. Highly recommended as a preamp for any type of pickup or mic or combination of both. Also has some nice effects and a "boost" button for soloing in a jazz context.
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Re: Cordoba GK Pro vs Studio, plugged in sound

Post by souldier » Fri Nov 24, 2017 1:24 pm

Blondie wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:54 pm
As the title suggest, I'd like to hear from anyone who has played both the GK Pro and GK Studio, through the same Amp/PA system, and what you can say about the difference in sound.

The pick up system on the GK Pro is about 10 times the price of the system in the Studio, obviously the pro is all solid wood and is a better quality build, but its the difference in the 'plugged in' sound I'm interested in. I can't find a direct recorded comparison, unfortunately.
I was once interested in getting a guitar with a pick up but I discovered they tend to make a guitar sound electronic and artificial, which is what I don't want from a classical guitar. If you are interested in being amplified, I'd definitely look at an instrument mic such as the Bartlett Mic or Mini Flex. They allow you to plug into an amp just the same while freely walking around the stage, but the sound they produce are a lot more natural as compared to a pick up system. I've tried the Mini flex on my friends guitar and was amazed at how natural it sounded. I'd probably go for the Bartlett Mic myself since it can be easily transferred to any guitar and doesn't require drilling.
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Re: Cordoba GK Pro vs Studio, plugged in sound

Post by Ceciltguitar » Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:04 am

Google ToneDexter. I have one on back-order. I can offer my two cents on ToneDexter's value once I try it, If I remember to do so...

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