Rest stroke for Ornaments?

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twistedblues
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Rest stroke for Ornaments?

Post by twistedblues » Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:52 am

Do you typically use a rest stroke for Bach Ornaments?

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Re: Rest stroke for Ornaments?

Post by Lovemyguitar » Wed Feb 22, 2017 3:14 am

Do you mean trills and mordents? Usually, they are played with the left/fretting fingers (like a slur), unless one is skilled and fast enough to do a cross-string trill, which would be a free-stroke.

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Re: Rest stroke for Ornaments?

Post by JohnB » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:24 am

Do you mean using rest stroke at the start of an ornament which is played with the left hand or something different?
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Re: Rest stroke for Ornaments?

Post by ben etow » Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:55 pm

Ornaments are meant to embellish with "light" notes. Wether you use a rest stroke or not doesn't matter as long as you achieve the meaning of an ornament.
I may play apoyando the first note (then doing a decrescendo, mostly with slurs) in a passage in forte, but probably tirando in a softer passage (or controlling the apoyando in order to play it soft enough).

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Re: Rest stroke for Ornaments?

Post by Stephen Kenyon » Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:59 pm

Whichever produces the result you are after, depending on the fingerboard location, general context in the piece etc. Always aim to control your apoyando in terms of volume.
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Re: Rest stroke for Ornaments?

Post by twistedblues » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:15 pm

JohnB wrote:Do you mean using rest stroke at the start of an ornament which is played with the left hand or something different?
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Re: Rest stroke for Ornaments?

Post by twistedblues » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:16 pm

Thanks for the awesome answers, guys!

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