Slow and Painful

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Slow and Painful

Post by OldPotter » Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:24 pm

I have been looking at Satie's Gymnopedie No 1. The instruction at the beginning says "Lent et Douloureux", its almost as if he knew how I was going to play it. The Google translation is " Slow and Painful"
Is that what he really meant or is there a better word that translates the true meaning into English?
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Re: Slow and Painful

Post by Stephen Kenyon » Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:36 pm

OldPotter wrote:
Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:24 pm
I have been looking at Satie's Gymnopedie No 1. The instruction at the beginning says "Lent et Douloureux", its almost as if he knew how I was going to play it. The Google translation is " Slow and Painful"
Is that what he really meant or is there a better word that translates the true meaning into English?
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Re: Slow and Painful

Post by OldPotter » Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:54 pm

Thank you Stephen, that does work when I translate back into French too.
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Re: Slow and Painful

Post by edcat7 » Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:43 am

That's funny I'm working on that piece too. I Googled "lent et douloureux" and it said slow and painful...see Gymnopedie No1
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Re: Slow and Painful

Post by DerekB » Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:59 am

My Collins dictionary lists the rarely used word 'dolorous' which it defines as 'painful or sorrowful'.

Among the definitions of 'douloureux' in my Collins-Robert French-English is 'harrowing' but that only applies to my rendition of the piece.
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Re: Slow and Painful

Post by Rasputin » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:52 am

I've often wondered why the Spanish name Dolores should be so popular when it is cognate with douloureux (douleurs, anyway). Why would you give your daughter a name like that? Anyway, this thread has prompted me to look it up and it turns out to be a reference to Mary of the sorrows, aka the virgin Mary.

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