Recording a duet with myself

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Atocha5
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Recording a duet with myself

Post by Atocha5 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:07 am

Hi, I have been trying to record a duet. I recorded the first part without a glitch, and now I am trying to record the second part over it, as I listen to the first. Inevitably I get it ALMOST right, but there is always too much of a pause at the start of a phrase, or some such little goof that wrecks it. I keep thinking there must be an easier way. I have no state-of-the-art recording studio, just a nice Tascam DR-40 4-track digital recorder. Am I missing something obvious here, or do I just need to keep seeking perfection? I am going to be dismally sick of this piece before I’m done, which will defeat the whole purpose! Thanks for any insights.

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Re: Recording a duet with myself

Post by sxedio » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:08 am

I've done some with the Zoom H5 which is a fairly similar device, posted on this forum, e.g. viewtopic.php?f=20&t=114466

My only trick is to add 'count in' metronome so I get 3-4 beats and then I start playing/recording with no click track. It helps getting the second track entry right. Of course in the very worst case you can use a click track. I found the duet recordings a rather revealing experience for my ability (or lack of) to play consistent tempo and keep in time with another player. Tiring but worth doing, like practicing with a metronome!
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Phil McKelliget
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Re: Recording a duet with myself

Post by Phil McKelliget » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:33 am

Forgive me for stating the obvious but why not find a duet partner, it’s a whole lot more fun. It always amazes me how much easier it is to stay in time with another live musician than to say in time with a recording or a metronome. That mutual flexibility is really what it’s all about. I’d guess that this forum is an excellent vehicle for tracking down a duet partner.

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Re: Recording a duet with myself

Post by Atocha5 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:37 pm

I appreciate your reply and you are right about a duet partner being MUCH more fun than a metronome, but I am trying to make a humble recording for friends and family and haven’t found a duet partner willing to be on the recording. I will search the forum as you suggest.

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Re: Recording a duet with myself

Post by andreas777 » Sun Dec 10, 2017 7:41 pm

Play and record both parts with a (digital) metronome only. Do not listen to the first part when playing the second part. Then you can use a software to correct single notes and chords if you have been slightly out of tune.
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Re: Recording a duet with myself

Post by sxedio » Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:31 pm

andreas777 wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2017 7:41 pm
Play and record both parts with a (digital) metronome only. Do not listen to the first part when playing the second part. Then you can use a software to correct single notes and chords if you have been slightly out of tune.
That's a good way to sound like a midi file and not like a real duet. It works for pop music, but not the best approach for classical.
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Phil McKelliget
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Re: Recording a duet with myself

Post by Phil McKelliget » Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:43 am

Atocha5 wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:37 pm
I appreciate your reply and you are right about a duet partner being MUCH more fun than a metronome, but I am trying to make a humble recording for friends and family and haven’t found a duet partner willing to be on the recording. I will search the forum as you suggest.
Of course, finding a duet partner is easier said than done. I looked you up but you’re in New England whereas I’m in Old England. Good luck with the search. Phil

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Re: Recording a duet with myself

Post by kervoas » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:40 am

Agree about a live partner, but failing that I've synchronised the two tracks using Audacity (free version) and edited any fluffs etc without much difficulty.
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Re: Recording a duet with myself

Post by Joey Grimaldi » Sat Dec 16, 2017 4:08 pm

Seems to be an idea in the classical guitar world that playing to a click is unmusical, but that is bs to me. There is nothing stale about a steady tempo and your listeners will thank you for it.

Also when you get to a part where you want a rit momentarily ignore the click, takes practice but it's the best way to get a good recording.

Recording is not playing live, they are two different arts.

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