introduction to Se ele Perguntar

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introduction to Se ele Perguntar

Post by Grahamb » Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:49 pm

Some versions of this piece (David Russell's for example) have a short introduction about 4 bars long that I've never seen in published scores.

Did Dilermando Reis actually notate this or was it just improvised and later taken up by some players?

Does anyone have a score with this introduction?

A lovely piece by the way :D

Graham

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Re: introduction to Se ele Perguntar

Post by Sean » Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:03 pm

I've seen several copies of this piece floating around; none of them have the intro you're referring to. Maybe someone else knows more. It's kinda like the little transition material Kanengiser inserts between the intro and exposition of Sor's Gran Solo. Who knows where the idea came from?

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Re: introduction to Se ele Perguntar

Post by coot » Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:21 pm

hi Graham,

the intro certainly seems to be improvised, but hey that's what choro music is all about! If you want to hear a really amazing version, try to track down the version by the incomparable Raphael Rabello - he did a whole album in tribute to Dilermando, called "Relendo Dilermando Reis", with some great reinterpretations of those old classics.

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Sean

Re: introduction to Se ele Perguntar

Post by Sean » Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:19 am

Interesting! So David Russell was just keeping with tradition!

Grahamb

Re: introduction to Se ele Perguntar

Post by Grahamb » Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:41 pm

Thanks for your responses coot and sean.

I'd love to hear the Raphael Rabello album, coot. He was an amazing player and Reis would sound wonderful in his hands I'm sure.

I'm a reading the notes person and haven't working on improvising at all, unfortunately :(

Oh well back to the music stand. :chaud:

Graham

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Re: introduction to Se ele Perguntar

Post by richtm » Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:21 pm

Hi all,
I am still interested in this topic.
Is there a notation/score out there for the intro? I could not find any...
Also, where does it come from? Improvisation - and than almost all in the same direction? Who was the first? And why in this way? 4 bars? In a very similar manner? Questions to the experts out there...
Looking foreward to your input
Best regards
richtm
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Re: introduction to Se ele Perguntar

Post by Rick Beauregard » Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:36 pm

I remember seeing this somewhere and thought it actually came from David Russell. I'll check my files.
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Re: introduction to Se ele Perguntar

Post by Rick Beauregard » Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:17 pm

A little sleuthing and I found it here: download/file.php?id=46557&mode=view
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Re: introduction to Se ele Perguntar

Post by Andrei Puhach » Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:09 pm

Rick Beauregard wrote:
Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:17 pm
A little sleuthing and I found it here: download/file.php?id=46557&mode=view
Thank you, Rick! I was looking for this as well. A bit crowded, but seems to be accurate.
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