How to Practice 22 hours a Week

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Re: How to Practice 22 hours a Week

Post by Evangelos Skropidas » Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:11 pm

Mr Larry I agree 100%. I am inexperienced so I cant really understand the reason, but it definitely is the best "practice" method. Excruciating at first, quite rewarding after you get the hang of it. Not to mention that the reason we play guitar is to make people around us happy, make them better, thats the point of art anyways. Also calling it "play" music is very useful, in Greek I never say "practice", I just say that I have to play guitar for a few hours.

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Re: How to Practice 22 hours a Week

Post by simonm » Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:10 am

hopkinse wrote:... You also learn better when you do focused, efficient practice as opposed to 8+ hours of so-so practice.
Larry McDonald wrote:Better yet, perform 22 hours a week. The most I ever did on CG was 16 hours a week at a restaurant, for a year and a half. That was enough to fix just about any trouble. I was about level 7 when I started and a solid level 10 when my contract was over. Plus -I got a free dinner each night!
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Nothing like an audience to focus your attention. :lol:

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Re: How to Practice 22 hours a Week

Post by JohnPierce » Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:44 am

Larry McDonald wrote:Better yet, perform 22 hours a week. The most I ever did on CG was 16 hours a week at a restaurant, for a year and a half. That was enough to fix just about any trouble. I was about level 7 when I started and a solid level 10 when my contract was over. Plus -I got a free dinner each night!
simonm wrote:Nothing like an audience to focus your attention. :lol:
Yeah there is: The flautist you're playing with stopping in mid-song and staring at you like you're an idiot.

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Re: How to Practice 22 hours a Week

Post by lagartija » Mon Nov 05, 2012 2:18 pm

jwp wrote:
simonm wrote:Nothing like an audience to focus your attention. :lol:
Yeah there is: The flautist you're playing with stopping in mid-song and staring at you like you're an idiot.
:shock: That must have been horrifying if it was in front of an audience. In practice, it would just be humiliating! :chaud:
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Re: How to Practice 22 hours a Week

Post by Daniel Penalva » Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:28 pm

For those who recommend 10h/day i would ask how they dont hurt themself (mainly when you are in the first years) ?

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Re: How to Practice 22 hours a Week

Post by spanishguitarmusic » Sat Jul 15, 2017 1:48 am

Really great post! Yes, I definitely should be playing a lot more than I do. I at least try to get in about one hour per day everyday though! Some days I increase it though. I haven't got up to that amount yet!

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Re: How to Practice 22 hours a Week

Post by choctawchas » Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:39 pm

Larry McDonald wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:03 pm
Better yet, perform 22 hours a week. The most I ever did on CG was 16 hours a week at a restaurant, for a year and a half. That was enough to fix just about any trouble. I was about level 7 when I started and a solid level 10 when my contract was over. Plus -I got a free dinner each night!
All the best,
Lare
I have a regular hotel gig now Larry unfortunately they don't feed me anything.

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Re: How to Practice 22 hours a Week

Post by Larry McDonald » Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:45 pm

choctawchas wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:39 pm
Larry McDonald wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:03 pm
Better yet, perform 22 hours a week. The most I ever did on CG was 16 hours a week at a restaurant, for a year and a half. That was enough to fix just about any trouble. I was about level 7 when I started and a solid level 10 when my contract was over. Plus -I got a free dinner each night!
All the best,
Lare
I have a regular hotel gig now Larry unfortunately they don't feed me anything.

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Re: How to Practice 22 hours a Week

Post by tamfam » Mon Aug 07, 2017 1:25 pm

I practice 10-15 hours a week. A typical day is two or three practice sessions of 20-60 minutes each.

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Re: How to Practice 22 hours a Week

Post by choctawchas » Mon Aug 07, 2017 7:18 pm

Larry McDonald wrote:
Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:45 pm
choctawchas wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:39 pm
Larry McDonald wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:03 pm
Better yet, perform 22 hours a week. The most I ever did on CG was 16 hours a week at a restaurant, for a year and a half. That was enough to fix just about any trouble. I was about level 7 when I started and a solid level 10 when my contract was over. Plus -I got a free dinner each night!
All the best,
Lare
I have a regular hotel gig now Larry unfortunately they don't feed me anything.

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How about free booze? :ivresse:
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Re: How to Practice 22 hours a Week

Post by Gwynedd » Tue Aug 08, 2017 11:19 am

Stop watching DVDs.

And games.

Set the alarm and get up an hour earlier than you normally do before going to work.

Take your guitar to work and play for your fellow employees ( added bonus- you will deal with anxiety issues).

When you go on holiday or away for the weekend, take your guitar with you and play for other people.
This is absolutely perfect advice. I don't practice 22 hours a week but I'd benefit if I did. I think I practice about 10.

I stopped watching TV the minute I started guitar (accidental, got tired of it after the election) no games, set alarm earlier to play in the morning, take guitar to work (I have the corner office so I can close the door) and to friends' houses. I do all that.

What I need to do is limit time with a considerable cohort of friends on Facebook. We added a group for just the women in our company and it's great--but a time sink.

I schedule my practice time and keep a notebook. I put in what I've done that day and any problems so I can bring them up at the lesson. I played piano 55 years but guitar is the most intentional type of music learning I've ever done. I'm not sure why unless it's because of the difficulty of "finding the notes." Unlike piano they aren't all there laid out in front of you.

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Re: How to Practice 22 hours a Week

Post by georgemarousi » Tue Aug 08, 2017 12:27 pm

I practice close to as-much-as-I-can, BUT, given that I also have/want to prioritize work, girlfriend, friends, vacation etc. I would not like to loose balance in life.

Well, on the other hand, needless to say that time-wasters like TV, watching sports, surfing the internet etc tend to zero.. :D ( extra award hahaha )

Practically, my "plan" leads to some - few - days with little if any practice time, but also reserves days for a few-hour practice time. I try to increase as possible when preparing for my lessons / concerts or exams, decreased now during summertime..

What helped me a lot is that I am very consistent with all the above for 3+ years now, trying to mix everything; exercises, old and new repertoire

I second the mentioned 1-2 hour sessions, then a repeat(s) if possible, it really maximizes the learning benefits.

My advice is just be consistent with a regular practice plan, even a general one like mine, and you will see great improvement even if you can't afford 7, 10 or more hours / day.. :)
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Re: How to Practice 22 hours a Week

Post by georgemarousi » Tue Aug 08, 2017 12:28 pm

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Re: How to Practice 22 hours a Week

Post by zupfgeiger » Tue Aug 08, 2017 2:19 pm

I read somewhere that you need one hour of practice a day to remain at the level you reached. That is an easy time target to incorporate into your daily schedule. I try to play two hours on working days and three or even more on the weekends. Teacher twice a month. The result is: I am improving my playing skills, slowly but steadily. I envy those who claim to practice five, six or even eight hours a day. I coulnd't do that, even if I had no family and job. I find it useless to continue with praciticing when you are getting tired and concentration starts fading away. It's even contradictory and can cause injuries to force yourself into a painful practicing corset. But of course, with students and profs it's a different issue.
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Re: How to Practice 22 hours a Week

Post by choctawchas » Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:23 pm

zupfgeiger wrote:
Tue Aug 08, 2017 2:19 pm
I read somewhere that you need one hour of practice a day to remain at the level you reached. That is an easy time target to incorporate into your daily schedule. I try to play two hours on working days and three or even more on the weekends. Teacher twice a month. The result is: I am improving my playing skills, slowly but steadily. I envy those who claim to practice five, six or even eight hours a day. I coulnd't do that, even if I had no family and job. I find it useless to continue with praciticing when you are getting tired and concentration starts fading away. It's even contradictory and can cause injuries to force yourself into a painful practicing corset. But of course, with students and profs it's a different issue.
I think everyone is built differently and has different needs in terms of time, commitment and levels.

Obviously concentration beyond 2-3 hours is an issue so even in a day, like today, where I have spent 9 hours working different learning/training
strategies I take a lot of time out to switch off the music brain and relax.

Physically, a solid technique and mechanism that is fully realised will mean playing for hours is possible without injury,
however the brain will tire even if the hands do not. Developing the ultra fine sensitivity is the key on when to proceed and when to stop..

The way to constantly improvement is to develop a consistent strategy but consistently alter it.

If I only have an hour in a day I will spend 50% of time on mechanism and technical exercises.

The best advice I can give to any and all students is to trust how your body feels and responds.

Ambition can be your worst enemy.

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