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D02 Classical guitar lesson 02

Post by Jean-François Delcamp » Thu Oct 06, 2016 8:46 am

Hello everyone,
Please start by downloading the latest version of volume D02.
If you are new to the course, please read this message to familiarize yourself with the conditions for participating in the lessons. You should also read the first message in lesson 1, where you will find advice on how to make the most of your study time and on the methods of practising that I recommend.

Today, we're going to work on a series of exercises:
- page 72 ex. 1, 2 & 3.
In these right hand exercises, you will work on getting a smooth join between notes, that is to say that you will end one or more notes at the exact moment that you start the following note (or notes).

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- page 84 ex. 37 to 41.
Exercises 37 to 40 are for the fingers of the right hand. The (x) sign indicates that the right hand finger is resting on the string (and damping it). Exercise 41 is for the left hand: lean the left hand finger over to damp the adjacent string at the same time as you play the new note.

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- page 73 exercise 6.
Play this left-hand exercise trying to leave your fingers in place on the strings as long as you can, as I show you in the following video. If the stretches between your fingers feel too much for you, you can make it easier for the left hand by using a capo so that you play on the higher frets which are closer together and your fingers will not have to stretch so far apart. Avoid bending your left wrist, as this not only hurts, but also hinders the mobility of your fingers. Aim for the position (of the guitar neck, your elbow and your shoulder) which will allow you to play without bending your left wrist, as shown in the following video. You will be able to play this exercise more effectively if you place your left thumb below your ring finger, i.e. below the third fret.
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- page 74 Chromatic scale
Play this scale trying to leave your fingers on the strings as long as possible, as shown in this video. You will be able to play this exercise more effectively if you place your left thumb below your ring finger, i.e. below the third fret.

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Next, we will be working on two pieces with a phrase structure of 4 bars. Phrase structure is the division of the larger musical phrase into parts of equal length, with the most common division being into sections of 4 bars. This division is linked not only to walking, but also to dance, poetry and singing.



- page 9 Fernando SOR (1778-1839) LEÇON IV opus 60
In order to mark the beat yourself, you need to count the smallest rhythmic values out loud as you play, as indicated on the score: "1 e 2 e 3 e 4 e 5 e 6 e" ("1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and 5 and 6" in English)

Using a metronome is useful, but it is only a temporary crutch to lean on. You will benefit far more by counting the beats out loud as you play than by using a metronome. Internalizing the rhythm allows us in time to achieve both freedom and discipline when playing, that is, to be a musician.
If counting the smallest values out loud seems difficult, or very difficult, to you, it only means that you have to persevere, or persevere a lot more. Keep at it with determination until it becomes easy and natural for you. When, after having practised it long enough, this exercise of counting out loud while you play becomes easy, then you don't need to bother with it any more.

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When you start working on a new piece, start by working very slowly, concentrating on precision. The essential thing is that you should play the music perfectly, that your rhythm should be precise, your sound well controlled, and your playing musical and expressive.
Speed will come with your new skills acquired in time through work. You should not worry about speed when tackling a new piece. At the beginning, such a preoccupation would only hinder you in your progress. It is only once you have mastered the piece within the comfort of a slow tempo, that you can start to think about playing progressively faster until finally you reach the right tempo.

- pages 12-13 Jean-François DELCAMP (1956) MALAGUEÑA
To mark the beat for yourself, count the beats out loud as you play, as indicated on the score (1 e 2 e 3 e)
i.e. ("1 and 2 and 3 and").

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I ask you first to work on all these exercises and pieces for one week and then to post your recordings on the forum for:
- exercice number 6 on page 73
- exercice number 40 on page 84,
- MALAGUEÑA on pages 12 and 13.


The work I'm asking of you is difficult and requires you to be both organized and disciplined. It is certain that you will struggle to get your fingers to perform the exact movements required for the exercises. In order to succeed in this, you need to make the same movements several dozen times daily. The goal of these exercises is to strengthen and stretch your finger muscles, to make your fingers stronger and more agile. Put in plenty of work, every day, on the difficult parts, focus on them and play the easy parts only occasionally.
To get the best out of your practice time, split it up into 15 minute sessions, and leave your hands to rest for at least 30 minutes between sessions. If your hands hurt, leave them to rest for an hour, the time it takes your body to eliminate the lactic acid in your muscles, which is the main cause of muscle pain.


Good luck!


I thank Charles (Charlesoln) and Geoff (GeoffB) who have helped in the translation of my lessons into English.

Jean-François

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Exam qualifying submissions:

exercice number 6
exercice number 40
MALAGUEÑA

Salvatore Lovinello
exercice number 6
exercice number 40
MALAGUEÑA

Jenni Gribble
exercice number 6
exercice number 40
MALAGUEÑA

Jonathan Lamb
exercice number 6
exercice number 40
MALAGUEÑA

Binh NguyenKhac
exercice number 6
exercice number 40
MALAGUEÑA

Rajesh Dhungel
exercice number 6
exercice number 40
MALAGUEÑA

Tom Hayes
exercice number 6
exercice number 40
MALAGUEÑA

Dustin McKinney
exercice number 6
exercice number 40
MALAGUEÑA

David Florea
exercice number 6
exercice number 40
MALAGUEÑA
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Re: D02 Classical guitar lesson 02

Post by Salvatore Lovinello » Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:43 pm

The Malaguena is on it's way...
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Re: D02 Classical guitar lesson 02

Post by Jonathan Lamb » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:33 pm

Hello Classmates!
I'm experiencing difficulties RE:- Firm Decisions on fingerings in MALAGUEÑA.
Specifically, the bars where no (fingered) precedent seems printed on our worksheets.
This is to say:- Measures 37-39;41-44;45-47.
So my question:
How are you getting along with fingering decisions, now that we're in the D02 Group and we have to make this for ourselves?
What do you use as the basis for fingering decisions?
Are you experiencing difficulties in the same specific measures as myself?
Thanks for all your feedback,
Jonathan
:-)

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Re: D02 Classical guitar lesson 02

Post by Jonathan Lamb » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:46 pm

Sal - Hi nice listening to your exercises. Here is some critical review: For your Ex 6 I basically like it. J-F D plays this exercise with a good deal of dramatic variation in the dynamics and lets the notes ring out, even when pianissimo. I think your final C♮ is sooo nicely placed, you clip it (too soon). For Ex. 40, it may be the response of the mic but I personally find too much bias in the higher frequencies. As I wind my neck in, may I be forgiven in advance for my likely hypocritical submissions in the days to come!
Keep it up everybody... Jon
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Re: D02 Classical guitar lesson 02

Post by Salvatore Lovinello » Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:30 pm

Jon, thanks for the feed back. In regards to fingering I think what ever works is right. My considerations for fingerings are the notes immediately before and after. I'm always experimenting with fingering. Once I find something that works I make a note of it. Some fingerings lend themselves to transition better than others. I tend to reserve the E(low), A and D strings for my thumb unless otherwise noted like the B# in measure 50.

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Re: D02 Classical guitar lesson 02

Post by Colin Bullock » Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:18 pm

Salvatore Lovinello wrote:The Malaguena is on it's way...
Exercises are fine. In the second one you could try for more evenness of volume betwen bass and treble notes.

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Re: D02 Classical guitar lesson 02

Post by Colin Bullock » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:34 pm

Jonathan Lamb wrote:Hello Classmates!
I'm experiencing difficulties RE:- Firm Decisions on fingerings in MALAGUEÑA.
Specifically, the bars where no (fingered) precedent seems printed on our worksheets.
This is to say:- Measures 37-39;41-44;45-47.
So my question:
How are you getting along with fingering decisions, now that we're in the D02 Group and we have to make this for ourselves?
What do you use as the basis for fingering decisions?
Are you experiencing difficulties in the same specific measures as myself?
Thanks for all your feedback,
Jonathan
:-)
don't know whether it helps, but looking back at the malaguena I first tried to fit an existing pattern into unfingered bars eg bar 1 applies to bar 25. Alternatively something close to the principle eg 37 & 38 pamia, and 39 pamiam, mainly because those felt comfortable and maintained an alternation while avoiding awkward string/finger crossings.

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Re: D02 Classical guitar lesson 02

Post by Jenni Gribble » Sun Oct 23, 2016 11:29 pm

Here is my REALLY rough Malaguena. I know there are problems, but I think if I continued to practice it and memorized it, I could play it decently. Not the least of my problems is my nerves--even recording I get so nervous and then my right hand fingers get all jumbled up. Also, I just haven't learned the song quite yet. It is the hardest song I've tried to learn up until this point.

But here is is:
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Re: D02 Classical guitar lesson 02

Post by Salvatore Lovinello » Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:57 pm

Jenni,

What a great recording after working on "the hardest song I've tried to learn up until this point." for only three weeks. You have the note intervals correct so now it's a matter of repetition with focused practice. I would like to hear a rasgueo at the end. Good job

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Re: D02 Classical guitar lesson 02

Post by Colin Bullock » Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:45 pm

Jenni Gribble wrote:Here is my REALLY rough Malaguena.
well done, I found this hard last yr and I don't think I managed anything better than your 'rough'

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Re: D02 Classical guitar lesson 02

Post by Jenni Gribble » Tue Oct 25, 2016 12:56 am

You are all too kind :) Thanks for the encouragement. I will upload the two exercises in a few days.

Salvatore, I absolutely forgot to do a rasguero at the end. It sounds so much better that way.

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Re: D02 Classical guitar lesson 02

Post by Jenni Gribble » Tue Oct 25, 2016 1:52 am

Jonathan Lamb wrote:Hello Classmates!
I'm experiencing difficulties RE:- Firm Decisions on fingerings in MALAGUEÑA.
Specifically, the bars where no (fingered) precedent seems printed on our worksheets.
This is to say:- Measures 37-39;41-44;45-47.
So my question:
How are you getting along with fingering decisions, now that we're in the D02 Group and we have to make this for ourselves?
What do you use as the basis for fingering decisions?
Are you experiencing difficulties in the same specific measures as myself?
Thanks for all your feedback,
Jonathan
:-)
I also wondered about the fingering. I am using whatever seems to work for me. On 37-39 and 44, I use PAMIM --sort of like I am doing an arpeggio. On 45-47, I use P most of the time, :shock: . And on 41-44, I start out PIMA and then complete the phrase with im alterations.

I also found that free strokes tend to work better some places--so I used rest strokes some and free strokes some. I sort of like how it changed the tone from section to section. But I don't know if this is right. :chaud:

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Re: D02 Classical guitar lesson 02

Post by Salvatore Lovinello » Tue Oct 25, 2016 12:14 pm

Jenni,

I think of the sheet music in front of me as an sketch open to interpretation. To paraphrase Billy Crystal's impersonation of Riccardo Montalban, it is better to sound good than to look good and dahling you sound marvelous...

I found my fingering had to change slightly when I sped things up to avoid gaps and stumbles. I'm still having trouble with consistency.

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Re: D02 Classical guitar lesson 02

Post by Jonathan Lamb » Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:39 am

Dear Classmates,
Herewith my recordings of the pieces for Leçon 2.
OK so my rendition Malagueña is so rough I nearly scratched it, but going away tomorrow and can only take hand luggage.
I will attempt a better version later, so please bear with me on this.
@Jenni - liked your final chords and the way you fanned the last chord on yours, well done!
Malagueña_oct16.mp3
Extensions_nivel_2_No._6.mp3
ex_40_Terminer_Fermare_Damp_Apagar_oct16.mp3
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Re: D02 Classical guitar lesson 02

Post by Salvatore Lovinello » Wed Oct 26, 2016 6:31 pm

The Maleguena.
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