D05 Classical guitar lesson 05

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Re: D05 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by vincent martin » Sat Jan 28, 2017 3:09 pm

Angela Zhao wrote:Agustín Barrios Mangoré (1885-1944) El sueño de la muñequita
Impressive harmonics, I struggle to have the C and F as clear as yours. the bass D sounds a bit weird, but a nice play
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Post by vincent martin » Sat Jan 28, 2017 3:17 pm

Rick Beauregard wrote:I vaguely remember learning the Carcassi Etude
you have a good memory Rick!
this is a nice interpretation, you know where the few glitches are. I prefer the same tempo throughout the piece, and a bit more dynamics, but you're close
Rick Beauregard wrote: Besides I need to time to work on El Sueno harmonics. There are coming along but slowly.
Good luck, it requires time and time for those who are not used to harmonics :D
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Re: D05 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by vincent martin » Sat Jan 28, 2017 3:19 pm

Hello colleagues, I'm following the same course on the French forum, but it is very quiet particularly this month. It is good to hear others difficulties and achievements
I'll be back!
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Re: D05 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Rick Beauregard » Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:49 pm

Merci Vincent and welcome to the English forum. It's a little quiet here too but we have a few intrepid followers. I wish I spoke better French or I'd check in there. I'll go over and check out your work!
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Re: D05 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Ruggero D'Elia » Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:45 pm

Angela Zhao wrote:Hi classmate
This is my assignments. I'm sorry for some mistakes, and for Anonyme Saltarello, I try to play it,though not practised, I wonder how to play damp, I also watch the Delcamp's video with slow speed, but I can't understand clearly. If you have any good ideas to play damp,please teach me!
Thank you for your comments! :merci:

Matteo Carcassi (1792-1853) Etude III opus 60

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Agustín Barrios Mangoré (1885-1944) El sueño de la muñequita

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I wish O could manage the harmonics the way you do.. :bravo:
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Re: D05 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Ruggero D'Elia » Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:51 pm

Rick Beauregard wrote:I vaguely remember learning the Carcassi Etude III years ago, but long forgot it. Here it is, a tad slow with a few glitches.


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Saltarello is another piece I learned in 1981. Rather than learn a new version of fingering, I stuck with my old fingerings but with the open basses but the Delcamp arrangement. I just didn't want to spend time on re-learning it, a la Guardame Las Vacas, since it wasn't assigned for exam qualification. Besides I need to time to work on El Sueno harmonics. There are coming along but slowly. I will have a recording by the end of the lesson, but it probably won't be near finished. It took me years to get the harmonics down in El Testamen de N'Amelia (coming up soon?).


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I enjoyed your SALTARELLO, Rick You have managed it greatly! :bravo: :bravo:
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Re: D05 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Rick Beauregard » Sun Jan 29, 2017 2:59 am

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Re: D05 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Marko Räsänen » Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:07 am

Hi Rick, I thought your El Sueno was very good! It obviously needs faster tempo and some more fluency with the harmonics, but other than that, :bravo:
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Re: D05 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Rick Beauregard » Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:05 pm

Thanks for listening Marko. I'll repost a video when I get closer to passable.
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Re: D05 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Stewart Doyle » Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:16 pm

Hi everyone

Angela, this is now the third year I've attempted to play the Barrios piece. Unless you happened to have played it before I am SO impressed with how quickly you were able to play, if not master, the harmonics. I notice you were able to play them while glancing at the music. I've tried to memorize that section as I need to stare grimly at my right hand during it. My recording after about a week's work (this year at least) is below.

Rick, Estaban - really nice versions of the Study. Both show my version to be not just a 'tad slow' but far too slow. Again, it's after about a week's practice (this year); I'm still playing catch-up and hoping to keep going through the lessons. I really enjoyed your version of Saltarello too Rick.

So, here are my pieces for this lesson. One thing I realized when recording, which I have noted before, (and then forgotten!), is that I too frequently practice in a 'relaxed' position, without guitar rest for example. Of course when I then come to record, I immediately feel tense, with predictable results ....

El sueño de la muñequita

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Etude III opus 60

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Re: D05 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Rick Beauregard » Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:54 pm

Well done Stewart. These pieces are coming along nicely. I will share this video of Scott Morris' lesson on Carcassi III that may help you. Three things I took from this regarding left hand. 1. Preparing fingers, 2. Placing fingers only when needed and 3. Guide fingers to navigate quick changes in positions.
http://www.guitarsalon.com/blog/?p=3364
On El Sueno, aside from the difficult harmonics, I found measures 26-32 difficult to master as well. Practice them slowly. It helped me to write out right hand fingering. Be sure to hold notes for their full value, and like the Carcassi, take advantage of guide and pivot fingers to make smooth chord changes. With practice it will come!
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Re: D05 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Rick Beauregard » Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:47 pm

Oh and I also like Scott's recomendation NOT to use rest strokes on the melody line of the Carcassi Etude III because it cuts off the harmony. Although eighth notes are written, I like it better when the notes of the arpeggio ring, harp-like. He justifies his way by noting Carcassi's guitar method never mentions rest strokes.
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Re: D05 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Angela Zhao » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:40 am

vincent martin wrote:
Angela Zhao wrote:Agustín Barrios Mangoré (1885-1944) El sueño de la muñequita
Impressive harmonics, I struggle to have the C and F as clear as yours. the bass D sounds a bit weird, but a nice play
Vincent
merci vincent, welcome to English Forum, Hope to watch your video, and study from you.
Actually everyone have his advantages. I also learn a lot from the study. especially their perseverance and work hard!
So there is no reason to not good practice. :merci:

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Re: D05 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Angela Zhao » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:50 am

Hello Stewart

Thank your comments.

About the harmonic, before this class, I studied the "Sakura Theme And Variation", there is some artificial harmonic, but I play it by ring finger,not by thumb, and I feel it all ok to play. Yes,it's not easy to put in the correct position quickly, it's need more practise.I think you can make it from your efforts. :merci:

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Re: D05 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Rick Beauregard » Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:16 am

Here are some updates of my required work.
El Sueño de la Muñequita:

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Etude III opus 60. For this version I played free strokes in the melody and emphasized the dynamics more, as you recommended Marko.

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All this time I thought I was making music; it was making me.
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