Right, there's something more than to how we think. Maybe we're always here or even always somewhere else. Maybe we are the Universe, who really knows. All I know is that I feel like I'm here experiencing a life on a planet called Earth. I realize that this body will die. People will continue to be born. I have no good reason to think one of those people won't be me again as another "I". True it won't be the exact same "me", but it will be "me" inside a body looking out on the world. But then who's to say I won't be in another world or dimension? Who's to truly say what "I" will be? Who's to really say that "I" am really here right now on Earth?rojarosguitar wrote:Maybe you are someone else?
You may not believe that you have a "self", but when you wake up in the morning your "self" is hungry and has breakfast. You are alive now, as far as you can tell. It has happened once. You were not here on Earth, you are born, then you're not. Why won't this happen again with you as another "self" in another body if it's happened once? You can't say it won't, because it has happened. Why can't the situation of you experiencing life on Earth happen once again?rikart wrote:Contained throughout the initial post is the presupposition that there can exist a duality within the entity that is you: 1) your body, and 2) your 'self'. It's the condition of separateness, an odd construct that is probably peculiarly human, whereby in our efforts to make sense of the world within the limits of our evolving intelligence we currently compartmentalize things in our minds. We do it so much that we even see the world, the planet, as something 'other', as in the extraordinary idea that we live on the planet, as opposed to that we, along with all other creatures, and every rock, and flower, and breeze, and stream are the planet. It is so delusional that dolphins find it hilarious. Actually, that's not quite true, the thing they find so funny is comedian Bob Monkhouse's joke: "They laughed when I told them I was going to be a comedian. Well, they're not laughing now!" Anyway, thinking about thinking outside the body is a futile exercise when one could better spend one's time being instrumental in making your beautiful pieces of glued tree sing. So, to imagine that there could be another 'self' in 'me' is to my mind a fantasy. In fact, the very thought is alien to me. At least, that's what I tell myself!
Actually, I did not say that I do not belief that I have a 'self', or there was no such thing as the 'self'. In fact, I don't believe it. I know it. My argument was that there is a body, and there is a 'self', but that in my reality the two are inseparable, and part of the whole. If I do not have either body or 'self'', I do not have anything, for without one I do not have the other. And with that there is no me. As I say, in my reality."You may not believe that you have a "self", ...."
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