I got my PhD, went into private practice, made a lot of money and retired (the first time) in my 40's. Not very Spartan. I started a couple of part-time businesses so that I could play with horses and get someone else to pay for it. My goals are completely self serving and therefore the achievement is rewarding. I don't need to "pay" myself since I don't do anything that I don't want to do. Any "M&M's" that I want I get because I want them I no longer need to work for them. Not very Spartan.Andrew Pohlman wrote:mmapag wrote:Took the words right out of my mouth Bear. I would also be careful about using food or drink as a "reward". That can lead to a potentially unhealthy relationship with food or drink. Nothing wrong with enjoying a good meal but it should not be seen as a reward IMHO.bear wrote:I don't. The achievement is it's own reward.Now, maybe I'm getting the wrong message from this, but the Spartan approach is for the birds.lagartija wrote:...+1 ...The reward centers of my brain light up just from the achievement itself. No other reward is needed.
For me, I celebrate (read reward myself for) every little success. Life is for celebration, and I'm worth it! I have seen the Spartan thing so many times in my patients. They live prudent lives, save up all their money, wait to do anything fun until retirement when they feel they truly deserve a reward for a life full of accomplishment. Then they die 6 months later. Seen it first hand many times...
No thanks. So I celebrate big goals down to little trivial goals :: job promotions, completing a college level course, learning a classical piece, birthdays/births/weddings, fixing a squeaky hinge, and surviving the commute home from work! Sometimes big rewards, like a Trevor Gore guitar for my 60th birthday. Sometimes small rewards, like beers and Bavarian bretzeln with good friends on a Spring afternoon!
If you guys are not indulging in self reward on a daily basis, you are missing the point of living. Life is a journey, not a destination. Reward yourself while you are still paddling the canoe, because the ultimate destination for the human journey ends with the phrase "survived by". I suppose it comes down to how you want to be seen and/or remembered. Are you the most accomplished, but humble person ever born? Or are you the person with a large lust for living who told the Grim Reaper to take a number while you enjoyed a Merlot and Filet Mignon with family and friends for the last time?
I agree. I don't do that either.bear wrote:I believe that depriving yourself until some goal is reached is far more Spartan.
Yup. Totally agree. I am certainly not being Spartan. It is just as simple as achieving the goal is it's own reward. That is what satisfies. I am all for celebrating life and relationships. Growing musically is part of that. It's not something i have to wait to do till i achieve a goal. As was said, life is a journey not a destination.lagartija wrote:I agree. I don't do that either.bear wrote:I believe that depriving yourself until some goal is reached is far more Spartan.
I do believe fast eddie's deeply profound response fully captures the entirety of human desires and motivations in three simple words.
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