Practicing guitar in your apartment space

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Re: Practicing guitar in your apartment space

Post by robin loops » Sun Jun 11, 2017 5:21 pm

Charles Mokotoff wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:04 pm

The only thing that bugs me here is the HVAC is close to the room in which I practice, it can get fairly loud. I didn't have that issue in the house I moved from. If any one has any thoughts on how to dampen that sound, I'd be very interested in knowing, thanks.
I use a silent tower fan in my practice room. When not recording, I just ignore the air conditioner. When I want to record a track I set the thermostat a couple of degrees cooler (or hotter in the winter) then turn it off while recording. If it starts getting too warm I turn it back on and wait for it to cool down again before recording more. I use that time to run through the next piece I'm gonna record or review pieces I just recorded. Other options when it's too hot or too cold to do this are to use close micing techniques to cut out as much of the ambient noise as possible or to cover the vent in the practice room with an insulated padding (provided the noise is coming through the vent) and leave the door open so air from the other rooms creeps in. Blankets hanging over mic boom stands (put boom stand horizontal in a T position) can also cut out a lot of excessive sounds for recording and these and other types of screens can be used to 'block' some of the sound coming from the direction of the HVAC (even just for practicing). For this, sit on opposite side of room as the noise and make a mini isolation booth with the screens. And finally, if you have a practice room dedicated to music you can build an isolation booth which is basically a small room (box) within the room. This will need ventilation but you can use a silent fan system for that. There are many DIY projects for how to go about doing this, just search building an isolation booth/room for a home recording studio.
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Re: Practicing guitar in your apartment space

Post by Charles Mokotoff » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:16 pm

Thanks for the tips, for me its just a general white noise that bugs me while practicing. I haven't tried recording here yet, but when I do, this will come in handy.

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Re: Practicing guitar in your apartment space

Post by robin loops » Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:52 pm

Charles Mokotoff wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:16 pm
Thanks for the tips, for me its just a general white noise that bugs me while practicing. I haven't tried recording here yet, but when I do, this will come in handy.
Sometimes to combat ambient noise while practicing (room mate making noise, traffic, etc.) I use my monitoring headphones (and relatively close micing technique) to cut the noises not coming from the guitar. This also helps me focus a bit more on days when I'm distracted. However, decent preamps and mics (not great but decent) as well as great studio headphones are essential for this to work well. I also find it helps me 'get out in front of the guitar' to some degree. But, this really doesn't work well if room mate is making a lot of noise as the noises will be too dominate in the mix and more distracting than not...
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Re: Practicing guitar in your apartment space

Post by spanishguitarmusic » Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:24 am

I heard some players use crumpled up socks placed under their strings close to the bridge to mute the strings and sound somewhat. Although, it's not as nice as actually hearing the strings ring out.

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Re: Practicing guitar in your apartment space

Post by Charles Mokotoff » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:40 pm

spanishguitarmusic wrote:
Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:24 am
I heard some players use crumpled up socks placed under their strings close to the bridge to mute the strings and sound somewhat. Although, it's not as nice as actually hearing the strings ring out.
I use a guitar mute I bought in the Far East many years ago when I practice crazy early. If you search on the big shopping site named after a river for "Bridge-Side String Muter / Dampener", you will see something like the one I have. Its far more elegant than socks.

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Re: Practicing guitar in your apartment space

Post by khayes » Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:51 pm

Charles Mokotoff wrote:
Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:40 pm
spanishguitarmusic wrote:
Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:24 am
I heard some players use crumpled up socks placed under their strings close to the bridge to mute the strings and sound somewhat. Although, it's not as nice as actually hearing the strings ring out.
I use a guitar mute I bought in the Far East many years ago when I practice crazy early. If you search on the big shopping site named after a river for "Bridge-Side String Muter / Dampener", you will see something like the one I have. Its far more elegant than socks.
You've never seen my socks :D
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Re: Practicing guitar in your apartment space

Post by spanishguitarmusic » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:43 am

Charles Mokotoff wrote:
Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:40 pm
spanishguitarmusic wrote:
Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:24 am
I heard some players use crumpled up socks placed under their strings close to the bridge to mute the strings and sound somewhat. Although, it's not as nice as actually hearing the strings ring out.
I use a guitar mute I bought in the Far East many years ago when I practice crazy early. If you search on the big shopping site named after a river for "Bridge-Side String Muter / Dampener", you will see something like the one I have. Its far more elegant than socks.
:merci: for the information, I will have to look the dampener up! :bye:

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Re: Practicing guitar in your apartment space

Post by spanishguitarmusic » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:43 am

khayes wrote:
Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:51 pm
Charles Mokotoff wrote:
Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:40 pm
spanishguitarmusic wrote:
Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:24 am
I heard some players use crumpled up socks placed under their strings close to the bridge to mute the strings and sound somewhat. Although, it's not as nice as actually hearing the strings ring out.
I use a guitar mute I bought in the Far East many years ago when I practice crazy early. If you search on the big shopping site named after a river for "Bridge-Side String Muter / Dampener", you will see something like the one I have. Its far more elegant than socks.
You've never seen my socks :D
:lol:

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Re: Practicing guitar in your apartment space

Post by meouzer » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:16 pm

To play quietly I got two tremolo mutes from Strings by mail. One has one more strip of foam on it than the other if I want it even quieter. Works well and you don't have to change how hard you play. If you have an electric classical, a Dr. Beat 90 metronome allows you to plug in your guitar to the metronome and listen to the beat and the guitar with headphones.

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Re: Practicing guitar in your apartment space

Post by Jeffrey Armbruster » Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:41 pm

meouzer wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:16 pm
To play quietly I got two tremolo mutes from Strings by mail. One has one more strip of foam on it than the other if I want it even quieter. Works well and you don't have to change how hard you play. If you have an electric classical, a Dr. Beat 90 metronome allows you to plug in your guitar to the metronome and listen to the beat and the guitar with headphones.
So...how much quieter does this dampener make your guitar? they only seem to have one version at sbm, which I have in my basket. Does it still allow notes to sound, just more quietly? Thanks.
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Re: Practicing guitar in your apartment space

Post by meouzer » Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:06 pm

Jeffrey Armbruster wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:41 pm
meouzer wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:16 pm
To play quietly I got two tremolo mutes from Strings by mail. One has one more strip of foam on it than the other if I want it even quieter. Works well and you don't have to change how hard you play. If you have an electric classical, a Dr. Beat 90 metronome allows you to plug in your guitar to the metronome and listen to the beat and the guitar with headphones.
So...how much quieter does this dampener make your guitar? they only seem to have one version at sbm, which I have in my basket. Does it still allow notes to sound, just more quietly? Thanks.
There's no way someone in another apartment would be able to hear. If using to dampen volume, the price one pays is lack of sustain. Again the plus side is, you can play as hard as you want. If one has a junk guitar, a better solution may be to fill it with stryofoam peanuts: I did that once.

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Re: Practicing guitar in your apartment space

Post by Jeffrey Armbruster » Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:07 am

Yeah I was in a situation last week where there were rooms all down the hall opposite. I played as quietly as I could, no rest strokes, etc. and still worried that I was bothering people (it was a silent retreat)--which is challenging in its own way. People could hear me a bit but everyone said it was pleasant and o.k.---I'll take it. But a dampener would have eased my worries and helped me relax and just play, as long as I could hear notes.
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Re: Practicing guitar in your apartment space

Post by Rognvald » Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:38 pm

When playing in a former time as a tenor sax player, I was verbally harassed by screaming neighbors pounding on floors, walls, etc. in every apartment in which I lived. I tried to ignore them, but it was impossible. So, until I found another apartment, I used to practice, with permission, at a local college in their rehearsal rooms. They were very sympathetic to my cause and I usually practiced at odd hours when the students were not using the rooms. I did this for about 6 months until I found an apartment in the home of Peter J. Zalubas--principal bassist for the Chicago Lyric Opera. He was delighted to have a "honker" in the house and I lived there until moving on to another life. Playing again . . . Rognvald
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Re: Practicing guitar in your apartment space

Post by larryguitar » Thu Jul 20, 2017 12:00 am

Rognvald wrote:
Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:38 pm
When playing in a former time as a tenor sax player, I was verbally harassed by screaming neighbors pounding on floors, walls, etc. in every apartment in which I lived. I tried to ignore them, but it was impossible. So, until I found another apartment, I used to practice, with permission, at a local college in their rehearsal rooms. They were very sympathetic to my cause and I usually practiced at odd hours when the students were not using the rooms. I did this for about 6 months until I found an apartment in the home of Peter J. Zalubas--principal bassist for the Chicago Lyric Opera. He was delighted to have a "honker" in the house and I lived there until moving on to another life. Playing again . . . Rognvald
Cool story, sorry you were harassed. Sonny Rollins took his tenor sax out to the Manhattan Bridge and practiced there, eventually recording an album entitled The Bridge.

I miss the trumpet player who I could hear from my apartment window. Maybe he went off to school.

How many hours a day did you practice? I think people who live in apartments should tolerate some noise from their neighbors. There are far worse things than listening to someone practice an instrument.

A few months ago, I put a rowing machine in my New York City apartment. It sounds sort of like a turbine when I crank it up. I can't last more than half an hour on the thing. I put down a rubber gym mat and, so far, not a peep out of the downstairs neighbor. I only run it during the day when they're probably away.

Here is one of the world's best rowers training on one:

https://instagram.com/p/BVcRR_5gQB-/

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Re: Practicing guitar in your apartment space

Post by Peskyendeavour » Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:50 am

Those used to living in urban environments and apartments don't care as long as it's not in the middle of the night anti social like. We used to hear people upstairs and down stairs practicing all sorts of instruments at all levels of ability. Trumpet and clarinet flute violin etc... It's just accepted part of urban living - you put up with those around you as long as it's not unreasonable.
Guitar is relatively quiet instrument. You are not planning to play it at 3am then it's not an issue. Shouldn't be...

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