I've heard this a lot lately for some reason - I missed it at the time but just browsing a list of what was around at the time it seems to an outsider like me that rock was going it's way very well with or without the Beatles. Frank Zappa, The Kinks, Pink Floyd, Hendrix, The Beach Boys, Roy Harper, Cream, The Byrds, The Who, The Yardbirds and hundreds more individual and uniquely creative musicians all existed before SP'sLHCB.gitgeezer wrote:the Beatles released "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" and rock music was changed forever.
Yeah, well in all fairness most pop songs had a similar structure going back to Hoagy Carmichael and earlier. But yeah I like the "Red" and "Blue" Beatles compilations well enough, but I haven't listened to them in ages. Overdose in youth, maybe.Jeffrey Armbruster wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2017 5:47 pmI work with the public in a bookstore. When I put on a Beatles compilation album, people my age and older get a smile and start swaying and dancing. I play one that progresses from the first album to the last. I have to say, I think it's all pretty good (it's rock/pop, after all). Even their early songs had a structure, with an intro, and a and b parts, and a finale. Not much but it's not like one repetitive hook. ...
"Precise moment"? Bob Dylan and Velvet Underground were already pretty serious before Sgt Pepper.
Well it's undeniable that one thing the Beatles did do was pave the way for the British musicians who followed. The Rolling Stones might not have gotten anywhere beyond playing clubs in the UK without them. Also we can't forget the sheer marketing/pr genius of Brian Epstein.gitgeezer wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2017 2:29 amJust saw an interview of the Stones when they were just getting started and were so controversial, particularly with the parents of their rabid fans. One of them explained it all by saying, "the Beatles already had the white hats, so we decided to wear the black hats."
"It blew minds", but was it the music or the packaging? It doesn't seem to me that the leap from Revolver to Sgt Pepper was all that large. In fact I think musically Revolver was better. It's true though that the cover art for Pepper was the greatest in history.PeteJ wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2017 1:06 pmHindsight is wonderful but when this album came out it blew minds. I was in France and all the local teenagers rushed straight out to buy it and we sat around the record-player awe-struck. We forget how novel it was at the time. Not Mozart, no, but hey, it's pop music. Would we rather have Justin Bieber? I was more Stones than Beatles and more Cream and Muddy Waters than both but I wouldn't knock them in any way. Not for no reason did Brian Wilson see Sgt. Peppers as a creative challenge.
beware IE users. some kind of malware on this site.gitgeezer wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:33 pmhttps://www.apnews.com/13c780a864fd4b3c ... ts-friends